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#27 [en] 

Sinvaders
By hearing all the stories about Zo-Kian outpost, I started to smile again.

I started to think on my own: "Everyone knows that Zo-Kian outpost is producing a material called "Cheng roots" used to make weapons, powerful weapons, used in war. [trim for length] Cause here we are really talking about a guild willing to provide weapons to everyone.

While Cheng root is indeed an Outpost material used in making weapons, there are more uses for weapons than to indulge in intra-homin war.  There are Kitins to slay, King beasts to bring down, bandits to subdue.  Yes, we would be (are) willing to craft weapons for anyone, but that's a different matter. We were making the materials available to all, not just those whose primary goal is to kill other homins.

((And before you say, "but you don't need OP weapons to do that," I would counter, that you don't need OP weapons to war on other homins, either.  You desire them for their convenience and utility.  So do we who do not wage war on homins.))

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Remembering Tyneetryk
Phaedreas Tears - 15 years old and first(*) of true neutral guilds in Atys.
(*) This statement is contested, but we are certainly the longest lasting.
<clowns | me & you | jokers>

#28 [en] 

I might also add, I love my Cheng amps when they are enchanted for healing. Nice and quick, sometimes with instant action, very nice :)

#29 [en] 

/OOC

@Bittymacod : I think you haven't get the point of my post at all. I'm not talking about what can be done with "Cheng mats", I'm talking about the fact you will provide this to everyone.(and btw it's char opinion not player one)
If you want a clear example: I'm a kamis (which I'm not, it's just for the example) and you are offering me this reource for free BUT you are providing the same to my enemies. I'm in war against people you will help by providing war material, why I should let you do this ? It's a war not care bears (as people seems to take things personally here, I prefer to be clear: I'm not saying that you are care bear :) ), stories that we are talking here.

+ as Caellan said you build a karavan drill on the outpost: This was a really bad move... you are in a kamis believers area building an karavan drill on an outpost in their land is just a provocation nothing else, just that can justify a war in my opinion (but you might not have though about this while building the drill).

And I absolutely do not understand why is that taboo to attack an ranger outpost.

#30 [en] 

I got your point, Sinvaders. 

My reply to your initial comment was basically to the effect that I found it irrelevant.  By making the mats (be they cheng, tekorn, vedice, or maga) available to all, I am increasing their availability to a group of homins who would otherwise not get them at all. Whether those people are enemies of yours or Rangers looking for a bit of advantage against the Kitins is not my concern.

I built a Karavan drill on Zorai (not Kami) soil.  I happen to like the aesthetics of the Karavan drill better than the Kami one.  It's not an insult -- its irrelevant. I doubt that the results or timing would have been any different if I had built a Kami drill.

As for the last, I have never, throughout this episode, suggested that.  Never.  It is the nature of Outposts that they will be attacked.  The only people who have suggested that, strangely enough, seem to have been Kami.

((Yes, I understand your arguments are toon-based.  I am debating, not arguing.))

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Remembering Tyneetryk
Phaedreas Tears - 15 years old and first(*) of true neutral guilds in Atys.
(*) This statement is contested, but we are certainly the longest lasting.
<clowns | me & you | jokers>

#31 [en] 

Please mind the forum rules and be polite at all times. The thread was about to go off the rails for a while, but it is back on polite ground for the moment, please keep it this way. Thank you!

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Tiximei
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#32 Multilingual 

@Trilexis tu dis que nous Maraudeurs avons des espions kamis avant de râler sur ce fait dit toi que vous aussi vous en avez et on en fait pas tout un plat et lors de vos kamis meeting vous avez qu'à bien trier les arrivés pour qu'il n'y en est pas donc si vous les laissez passé c'est normal qu'on sache quoi faire.

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#33 [en] 

*shifts in my seat and eats more popcorn*

#34 [en] 

*sits by Alassea's side and takes popcorn from her bowl, laughting a lot while seeing how easy it is to turn homins into evil*

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#35 Multilingual 

Multilingual | Français | [English]
Leeis NecYenne thinks that with her family name she should not interfere with the conversation ...
* / steals popcorn / *

Last edited by Neeis (6 years ago)

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Valyenae di Karan-valyenind e Aiyae di Lumnimae --o§O§o-- Gardienne du Royaume et Bénie de La Mère
Le nec ne nacharaias ilne! --o§OoO§o-- Tu ne me chassera plus jamais!
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