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#79 Многоязычный 

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Ryzom Forge meeting report – 2019/04/15

Status of the Ryzom Wiki (Zorroargh)

Zorroargh
The merge of the Forge and the Lore is [...] completed. But, as patrolling, I still find some little fails. So, as for now, I'm mostly working on categorization and aesthetics for them to be uniform and to Ryzom universe fit. Among other tasks, I am now answering a demand from Tamarea about Lore and Events: infoboxes for NPC. Contributors are not numerous but they are very active and work on the three original wikis (DE, EN & FR). When I find some time, I personnaly do some little bits of translation into spanish.

[Event] Refugee Days (Tamarea)

Tamarea
The Refugee Day, which began earlier, will end on April 23. It includes two OOC events: a treasure hunt and a small egg hunt, and a roleplay part, which will take place on April 18th. This RP event will highlight a part of Lore around the First Great Swarming, the Exodus and the Refugees, but also the history of the Rangers, directly linked to this part of the history of Atys. The event will continue with an expedition.

To learn more: https://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=post/view/194494

Q: Why are there so few eggs which pop?
R: There are eggs in each region of the nations (not in the Prime Roots) and they will come back often enough for everyone!

Q: There are different bugs in the small egg hunt (« old » tokens, won items that don’t appear in the special bag,...)
R: I just reported the issues to the dev, but we'll have to wait until tomorrow now. (so today!)

Be careful, you won’t win anything if you kill the egg in one shoot.
There are also giant eggs all around the surface of Atys for the treasure hunt. One Egg for each region to find and target.

Jena Year (JY) 2603 patch (Tamarea)

Tamarea
The progress of the work can be viewed on the roadmap: https://board.ryzom.com/?controller=BoardViewController&actio n=readonly&token=c46b5ea0f37c83d155f3eacc3acf6956ee75cbfca4af a3f2c107fcb4e74d
New features:
  • Addition of Kitin dynamic invasions
  • Addition of a roleplay reward system
  • Addition of another dynamic event later in 2603: federal merchant
Maintenance :
  • Move billing on a new server (done)
  • Move server test Yubo on a new server
  • Create a second Test server: Gingo
  • Rebuilding of New Horizons
  • Amelioration of K/K pact interface
  • Move Masters of the Goo to marauder tribe
  • Wheel of Fortune: Fix of several bugs
  • PoWo Guild Islands: Fix of several bugs
  • Titles: Fix of several bugs
  • Store user created channels (Store user created channels (dynamic) and restore them. This will prevent the loss of channels at server crash or reboot.)
Next changes to come for 2603 or 2604:
  • Move Atys on a new server
  • Move WebIg on a new server


Q: Will that change our fame among the Goo Masters?
R: The missions of the Masters of the Goo will help to gain marauder fame.

Q: Will the tribe stay available at least neutral to Karavaneers? How will the fame distribution with the newly aligned MoG look like?
R: The Karavan leaves the tribe, which becomes entirely marauder. On the other hand, I no longer have the minimum fame to access it in mind. The best thing will be for you to go and see carefully on the spot.

Recruitment (Tamarea)

Tamarea
We are looking for CSRs, Devs and Graphics members (DE, EN, FR, including CSRs on US time zones).
We are also looking for Animators (actors) to play roleplay events (DE, EN, FR, including animators on American time zones).
Finally, we are looking for russian and spanish translators and proofreaders.
To apply, please contact Tamarea (tamarea@ryzom.com)!

End of meeting

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Kyriann Ba'Zephy Rie
Cheffe de la guilde Bai Nhori Drakani
Taliar
Mère de famille

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Ryzom Forge meeting (May 13th, 2019)

Date: monday, may 13th, 19:30 UTC (21:30 CEST)

Meeting place: Atys, on Ryzomforge channel (/channel ryzomforge), or on chat. ryzom. com (channel #ryzomforge) for players who have already opened the channel ingame.

Duration: 1.5 hour

Participants: all Ryzom players wishing to join.
Nature: informative, questions & answers and feedback meeting.
Topic: Added, in test and ready to be tested projects.

Agenda
    • Ryzom Wikis
      • Creation of a "Wiki" workgroup
      • Improvement of our Wiki documentation
      • New publications
    • Ceremony in memory of Arionasis (may 10th)
    • JY 2603 patch
    • Recruitement

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tamarea@ryzom.com



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#81 Многоязычный 

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Ryzom Forge meeting report - May 13th, 2019

Improvement of our Wiki documentation

Tamarea 21:57
This is something we need to improve significantly... Both in terms of documentation for Ryzom Forge and for players. Open question about RF documentation: how to add Khaganat documentation in our wikis? (Khaganat and Ryzom Forge are partners, but have different wikis.) We already uploaded a part of it, but it's a lot outdated and the links are dead. I let you think about the RF technical documentation, we'll talk again about it on the forum, on RC or during the next meeting. The second kind of documentation is the one for players: how to have them updated on the wiki with all gameplay changes and new content? Any proposal?

Q: Did you mean Khaganat's documentation is outdated, Tamarea? Or is it ours?
A: Our wikis are not compatible, so even if we import them, we don't have their updates. And as their tree structure has changed, our links are dead. And that's a pity, given the richness of their technical documentation

Craftjenn 22:13
I cleaned old stuffs these last years… But I need help (knowledge), as I don't know Atys enough. The dedicated channel will help to correct errors or outdated data.
Faeloe 22:16
Maybe we could organize meetings closed or open to players with only some pages of contribution per session. I think we know enough people to organize ourselves moments to do it.

Tamarea 22:16
There are also wiki pages in other languages. And here we are short of contributors. Those who want to help with Ryzom wikis (and think about the issues) can join the public channel dedicated to the Wiki, which I will create as soon as the meeting is over. Now I let the wiki contributors speak, who will tell you about their publications, or what they want in relation to the wiki. :) Craftjenn has the floor!
Craftjenn 22:30
A pity Zorroargh is not here… I don't have many feed back from readers / users. It's hard to know what is missing, too. As a Ranger, we help lot of youngs, and I was quite fed up to give the same old advices over and over again. I starded contributions because of that… just a note pad, to copy and paste. Then I noticed that the main contributor was of my own Guild. As you (maybe) know, there are six wikis: one for images and five wiki, very differents for each language (mains are EN FR DE), written by different people. Same issue with the forum: as Atys has a very long history, many posts are outdated (especially technical details and spoilers). A part of contributions are free (see the work of Lou Tei-Sang, or some writings as Eleanide's ones), an other part is LORE validated.

Q: Do you have any recent publications to show us?
A: Easy: on main page, a link show all recents changes. On the EN wiki (Navigation/Recent changes)

Dorothee 22:46
Jenn and me are working on pages Arionasis, Teeneemai, Tyneetryk's Tears…
Heernis 22:46
My POV I used wiki not often at the beginning. Everything was French and English translation, many articles were bad and german ones didnt exist.
Craftjenn 22:47
I think a begining would be focus on FR and EN. I was as Heernis, reading english stuffs. I thought: I am not the best translator, but I can take some notes (summarize), try to translate, it could help an other French reader
Moniq & Tamarea 22:49
It would be great to get members of all teams involved on the wiki channel. Contributors, translators, proofreaders, lorists, sys-admin, …
Craftjenn 22:51
Here is an other example (EN and FR) of https://en.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Wheel_of_fortune
Heernis 22:52
At the moment it seems I am alone at writing content for the German part of the wiki. Would be good to involve other german writers. And even if french people use DeepL to translate then put articles in German wiki, it is much better that nothing.
Tamarea 22:53
Good idea to use DeepL for German translations. Otherwise the Germans will have an entire wiki to translate…

Tamarea 22:53
Do other contributors wish to speak?
Eleanide 22:56
At the moment I am updating article about the Wheel, an article whose original was in FR. I don't reveal there all that can be won at the Wheel. To keep suspense. But I try to explain all is worth to know about the Wheel. Here is an example of an article to update :)

Tamarea 23:03
Do other contributors wish to speak?
Nilstilar 23:03
My last contribution: https://fr.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Avant-propos. A fine story, written in French by a fellow player, that I'll translate to EN someday. I also contributed to User's Manual, Silan's Missions and Botanical articles.

Q: Another thing about the wiki: It would be great, since there are filters, that articles needing to be proofreading or updating or watewer should be listed somewhere automatically. If there is a list like that please let me know. None of the "Special pages" (bottom of all sites) was like I thought.

Tamarea 23:12
It's time to move on to the next topic, the clock is ticking! Think about joining #pj-ryzom_wiki on RC if you want to help in any way with our wikis!

Ceremony for Arionasis (may 10th)

Tamarea 23:17
I hope that most of those who so wished were able to attend this tribute ceremony. For the record, we just removed the Arionasis banner from the game, which was laying on the ground near Chiang. But Ari, his yubo zig, will remain permanently present (you can pet him). It was very emotional to see everyone present on Silan and to listen to everyone's words… We will publish the report of the ceremony, with pictures, on the forum. But I've seen that contributors have already created articles on the wiki: well done! For info, we have since one year the project of a permanent memorial for all players who passed away (waiting project). Any comment before to move to next topic?
Craftjenn 23:21
On the French wiki, there's a dedicated category for that. I will build the structure for that.

Next patch (JY 2603)

Tamarea 23:27
It is scheduled for May 18th (after midnight CEST). For US, on May 17th after 22:00 UTC.

DeepL ingame translation

Tamarea 23:29
Topic added to the agenda. Internally RRT and RF use a lot of DeepL automatic translator: https://www.deepl.com/translator We use it easily in events, by copy/paste, and I am doing the same right now for this meeting. DeepL translates much better than Google Translation, and this is particularly visible between German and French. We are testing the DeepL app on the test server, in order to use it as an automatic translator on all channels of the game. If it is successful (and it is on the way), we will install it on Atys. Then, there will be an option to enable/disable machine translations. This should greatly help to overcome the language barrier. And also to make events and meetings more comfortable!
Moniq 23:38
I must note that the number of supported languages is limited however.
Tamarea 23:41
DeepL supports more and more languages. In the beginning, there were four, compared to nine now, including the five languages of the game.
Heernis 23:42
German, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Dutch, Polish and Russian are supported.

Q: With this thing enabled, one will see everything in chats translated? Or will it only translate what one wants to say to chat?
A: I suggest you wait until we have it, before asking how it will work. We first test the translation as a whole. Then we will work on the "optional translation" part. The feedback from the testers will then be crucial to "model" this option. So I don't have an answer to that question yet. And of course, we will then improve the "optional translation" according to your own feedback, once DeepL is implemented on Atys. Who wants to know more should ask to go in test team.

Recruitment

Tamarea 23:44
We recruit volunteers in almost all our teams: Ark, Comm-Marketing, Dev, Event, Game-Design, Level-Design, Support, Test, Translation. If you have any questions or are interested in any of these teams, please contact Tamarea on RC or by e-mail at tamarea@ryzom.com. To apply directly: tamarea@ryzom.com

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Compte-rendu de la réunion spéciale de Ryzom Forge - 23 may 2019

Tamarea, 19:45 UTC
Cette réunion spéciale de Ryzom Forge est faite à la demande d'Inky, qui est le créateur de l'interface des pactes K/K et de l'ajout des messages d'accueil sur les canaux en jeu. Il aimerait avoir vos retours sur ces ajouts. Inky, tu as la parole !

Interface de téléport Karavan/Kami

Inky, 19:54 UTC
Nous allons commencer avec des retours sur la nouvelle interface de téléportation pour les Kara et les Kami, à vous la parole ! Tout d'abord, je m'excuse pour les soucis liés à la résurrection, c'est corrigé. Comme certains d'entre vous l'ont peut-être remarqué, le système d'achat auto ne nécessite pas une réputation maximale. C'était un malentendu. J'essaye de vous donner un moyen d'utiliser votre système de téléportation en y ajoutant un confort visuel ( et, l'ajout de l'auto rachat ). Le but est de faire disparaître ce besoin de multiplier les pactes pour ne pas risquer de se retrouver incapable de rejoindre une région !)

Eleanide 19:59 UTC
je voulais dire que les couleurs sont très bien car ceux qui ont des problèmes de vue distinguent bien les icônes et nations. Donc merci !
Zorroargh, 20:02 UTC
Je veux juste appuyer ce qu'a dit Eleanide. Ce qui est très important à mes yeux, c'est le contraste. Je constate que beaucoup d'icônes ont de plus en plus de contraste permettant de mieux voir l'objet. Donc, pour moi, à poursuivre !

Moniq 20:01 UTC
Si vous me le permettez, j'aimerais que la liste des pactes soit aussi complète que je l'ai toujours eu avec des descriptions.
Inky 20:02 UTC
Ceci est prévu dans ma liste de tâches, pour se comporter comme la liste courante dans le sac, mais plus condensée.

Q: C'est quoi l'artefact?
A: Un interface pour utiliser le système de téléportation, c'est totalement optionnel. C'est basé sur l'interface de téléportation Marau. Mais sans l'utilisation d'ARK. C'est la même chose que ton sac, mais, repris dans un "livre". L'interface est côté client, donc pas de ralentissement à l'utilisation.

Q: Quelles sont les conditions pour obtenir et utiliser l'artefact de téléportation ?
A: Pour posséder et utiliser l'artefact, vous aurez besoin d'une renommée de +33 Kami ou Karavan et du rite. La fonction Auto Pact fonctionne avec +33 de notoriété ou plus dans le cas des TP de surface et +60 dans le cas des TP de Primes Racines.

Q: Où se procurer l'artefact ?
A: Vous pouvez vous procurer des artefacts aux quatre lieux de culte sur Atys, temples Kami ou Karavan.

Q: Je demande parce que, je suis au Temple Kami, j'ai 100 en réputation, et aucun pnj ne veut me vendre l'artefact. Qu'est-ce qui ne va pas ?
A: L'artefact permettant d'utiliser la nouvelle interface de pactes K/K est enfin disponible aux temples, auprès d'un PNJ dédié ! (annonce officielle quelques heures après la réunion)

Q: Si la renommée passe en dessous de ce qu'il faut et que l'on possède l'artefact, est ce que le rachat auto fonctionne toujours ?
A: Non, ça ne fonctionnera pas.

Q: Est-il possible que l'interface, une fois passé en mode fenêtre, reste verrouillé dans ce mode, même après une déco/reco ?
A: Ce n'est pas encore possible.

Q: Y a-t-il un message lors du rachat auto, et un message lors d'un non rachat ?
A: Oui dans l'info système, lorsque vous en achetez un nouveau automatiquement ou lorsqu'un pacte de téléportation est utilisé.

Q: Est-ce que le nouveau Kami / Kara TP sera au même prix que le Ranger ?
A: C'est un interface, le système reste le même. Il y a juste eu le retrait du poids.

Q: Y a-t-il quelque chose de nouveau pour les neutres ?
A: Ceci est un ajout de contenu uniquement pour Kami et Karavan (pour une fois). Les joueurs neutres profitent au moins du retrait du poids.

Laoviel 20:59 UTC
J'ai utilisé l'interface quelques fois. Ça a l'air bien, pas beaucoup de retours à donner, c'est cool d'utilisation.
Tuffgong 21:00 UTC
Je l'utilise depuis le lendemain du patch, et à part un TP perdu, c'est cool à utiliser. Bon boulot !

Suggestions des joueurs
  • Ashuleila 20:33 UTC Nous aurions besoin de plus d'options, je pense. Comme un tri par prix d'achat ou alphabétique.
  • Tuffgong 20:34 UTC Possibilité de verrouiller le mode de fenêtre de l'interface pour rester dans le même mode au redémarrage.
  • Maiyr 20:59 UTC Je pense que quand des changements de ce type ont lieu, il serait bien d 'avoir plus d'informations sur comment ce sera implémenté. La plupart d'entre nous ne savent pas comment obtenir l'artéfact et ce n'était pas expliqué.
  • Ashuleila 21:01 UTC Est-il possible d'avoir la fenêtre de l'artéfact à la connexion? A chaque déco/reco, il faut réouvrir.

Présentation du canal (messages de bienvenue)

Inky 21:05 UTC
Des commentaires à propos des messages d'accueil dans les différents canaux ?
Luminatrix 21:06 UTC
Le message en canal Alentours et en canal Région est un peu dit bizarrement.
Aleeskandaro 21:06 UTC
Je pense que ce changement s'est produit dans le contexte d'un fil de discussion lancé par Revvy. Le but était d'inviter des homins à faire du jeu de rôle (Role Play ou RP) et d'expliquer un peu ce qu'est le RP, etc. Cependant, l'intro en Alentours dit juste : "ok ici quelques personnes RP" et ça ne va pas aussi loin qu'il le faudrait. Je suis également d'accord qu'il y a quelques erreurs mais je sais que certaines corrections ont déjà été proposées.
Inky 21:07 UTC
Tamarea et un Lorist travaillent sur ce sujet, pour l'instant nous avons ajouté l'introduction. Nous n'avons pas oublié la demande originale, c'est en cours de réalisation.
Eleanide 21:08 UTC
En fr, je trouve que les phrases sont sympa
Laoviel 21:14 UTC
(à propos de la suggestion d'ajouter des liens vers des messages) Plutôt qu'une description individuelle pour tous les canaux, ce serait bien un lien vers le forum pour l'expliquer.
Inky 21:15 UTC
L'ajout de la description du jeu de rôle est dans les "Travaux en cours" (comme indiqué précédemment), l'équipe de communication et la lore sont dessus. Il n'y a pas de message sur les canaux de langue parce que les règles sont les mêmes que pour l'Uni général. Les joueurs sont assez intelligents pour le comprendre. Les messages d'annonces sont également envoyé dans l'info Système. Bien, merci de votre participation, je vous laisse débattre sur le forum. ( Je lis tous les posts dans la section idée pour Ryzom.

Suggestions de l'utilisateur
  • Laoviel 21:08 UTC L'explication arrive quand on change de canal. Par exemple, en Univers, le message peut apparaître même après avoir discuté pendant un moment. Ça peut être compliqué, du coup, de comprendre que c'est un message d'information.
  • Laoviel 21:11 UTC Une nouvelle ligne, avant et après, et pourquoi pas un tag informatif ou quelque chose de similaire.
  • Eleanide 21:13 UTC Des *** sufirait avec un "notice"
  • Aleeskandaro 21:14 UTC (à propos de ALENTOURS) "Pour en savoir plus, cliquez ici" (un lien)
  • Bubbason 21:14 UTC Au lieu d'une description individuelle pour chaque canal, serait-il préférable d'avoir un lien vers un forum commun qui donne une explication sur l'utilisation optimale de chaque canal ? De cette façon, vous avez la possibilité d'ajouter plus de texte, au lieu d'une seule phrase.
  • Aleeskandaro 21:14 UTC Il serait bon de fixer la description du canal en haut de la fenêtre de chat.
  • Figment 21:18 UTC (à propos de l'explication du terme RP) Donnez à Chiang un petit ami pour présenter le RP. Peut-être avoir un représentant du RP dans chaque ville .
  • Bubbason 21:21 UTC Je pense toujours que l'option pour ajouter plus de texte est la meilleure. Par exemple, si, à cause de la description dans le canal Alentours, un nouveau joueur décide de ne pas vouloir RP et ferme le canal Alentours, il va louper toute sorte de messages.
  • Aleeskandaro 21:32 UTC Toutes les descriptions de canaux doivent inclure un lien vers le code de conduite (COC) du jeu et pour le canal Alentours, ce lien vers le COC et, en plus, une description de ce qu'est le RP et comment les gens RP, que ce soit dans un autre lien ou la description elle-même, peu importe

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Ryzom Forge meeting report – 2019/05/27

News from the Wiki Project Team (Tamarea)

Tamarea
A brief word on the progress of the new group working on Ryzom wikis: the contributors are now "clearing" the wikis: they are searching, sorting, reflecting, organizing. It is a long preparatory work but very promising for the future! They will tell you more about it at a future meeting.

Arionasis Memorial Ceremony (Tamarea)

Tamarea
A video is available on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvXBGnc1FaY&feature=youtu.be.

Fixing patch (Tamarea)

Tamarea
https://app.ryzom.com/app_forum/index.php?page=topic/view/29721/1
We are listening to your feedback.

NH and modifications on all missions of the game


Q: What is being done about the loss of faction points?
R: Nothing directly for now, the fixing patch was only about dappers and fame. On the other hand, it is always possible to earn faction points via delivery missions. The new Involvement system available during Dynamic Events allows you to earn crystals and raw materials. The number of Involvement that can be won during an Event probably needs to be balanced, but the basis is there.

Q: The NH no longer accepts bouquets of all qualities : only Q40 and Q10. But I have lot of other qualities in my bag. Is that a bug or a feature?
R: When I'ill have no more 40 and 10 Q bouquets in my bag, NH will accept other qualities. Its a feature!

Q: I wonder how we will be able now to buy raw materials of turquoise, green and purple color to craft pretty armors. Can't we lower the prices of raw materials or let us win some of all colors at the Wheel (not only brown)?
R: This could be a valuable RP reward, against Involvement. We have a list of future RP rewards to add, but we didn't have that idea in there. Besides, if you have other ideas for RP rewards, don't hesitate to share them with us on the forum!

Q: What was the point in making the change at all, unless you just wanted players doing more missions?
R: Our intention with the NH modification was to revalue the 11670 unused missions due to NH's absolute supremacy. However, this was supposed to be done smoothly, in steps, and not as quickly. But the NH database being totally broken, we decided to modify NH as of this patch, even if the mission balancing was not ready. Following your feedback, I will bring the Game Design team together again and we will discuss a possible step back. In other words, we will consider putting back in place, at least in part, the old NH system. While continuing in parallel to make the other missions more interesting, so that you can freely diversify your gaming experience.
Bubbason
Ryzom used to be about freedom of choice. A player, choosing their own destiny, their own style of play etc. Now, new Ryzom: Seems to be more about Ryzom dictating to players.For example, every reward seems to be Gubani Tokens, but what about players who don't want to play the Gubani wheel? RP rewards, what about players that don't want to get involved in RP etc. Dapper missions, it used to take 30 minutes to earn dapper, then you were free to do what you enjoy. Now, to get the same dapper you need to do 13 Corporal missions.
To offer a suggestion : maybe it would be useful to put some effort into completing some of the unfinished Rites or Encyclopaedia missions.

The new interface of the K/K pacts (Tamarea)

Tamarea
Were you able to test it from the fixing patch earlier?
Kyrean
I can't cause artefact disappeared since reboot.
Tamarea
There was a problem with the artifact, but normally everything came back in order... except for those who logged in at the time of the bug, like you two.
Ashgan
I was able to test it a little bit, it works pretty well, but I get scared at first. I didn't immediately understand that it only buys back the *last* TP. On the other hand, if we could have the names of the TPs in the interface rather than in popup, it would be ideal.

New colors for icons

Tamarea
What do you think of the new saturation of the icon colors?
Ashgan
Nice job for me. I have some regrets on the tryker blue that turns grey, but nothing excessive.
Eleanide
French said it's nice.
Katsubo
I strongly dislike the grey that has replaced tryker blue.

End of meeting

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Kyriann Ba'Zephy Rie
Cheffe de la guilde Bai Nhori Drakani
Taliar
Mère de famille

#84 Многоязычный 

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Ryzom Forge meeting report - June 10th, 2019

Ingame integration of DeepL translator

Tykus (RT) - 19:38 UTC
This integration is currently being tested on Yubo and will soon be tested on Atys by players who volunteer to participate in a "DeepL Test Hour".

Q: Do we know what languages Deepl will translate?
A:
For now DeepL translate English, French, German, Spanish, Portugese, Italian, Dutch, Polish and Russian.

Q: Will Atysian languages be taken into account?
A:
No Atysian language is supported by DeepL, sorry.

JY 2603 patch balance: fix of delivery missions

Tykus (RT) - 19:47 UTC
The following changes in delivery missions are intended to offset the loss of nation (civ) points awards previously granted by New Horizons:
  • Decrease in weight of parcels to deliver
  • Decrease to 8 hours of the time limit imposed for the repetition of the same mission
  • Increase in rewards granted in lower level areas (100-150 regions)

Q: Since the proposed time limit is only one hour shorter than the current one, will the situation really improve? Shouldn't the rewards be increased enough to be as high as those New Horizons granted, even if they are more difficult to obtain?
A:
The shortening of the repetition time is not so negligible and, above all, it does not come alone: the increase in rewards in low-level regions reduces the need for repetition and the reduction in the weight of packages, by allowing delivery by teleportation, shortens the time required to complete the mission itself.
In any case, if these changes prove insufficient, others will be implemented: these first measures are emergency ones whose impact on nation points remains to be precisely measured. We are actually following a plan for overall balancing and we are relying on you to provide us with constructive feedbacks on this first step, as well as those to come.


Q: What if to order New Horizons to deliver instead? One pays dappers to New Horizons and give him package and receive desired points after it...
A:
None

Q: Are there any plans to reduce the repetition time for other missions (crafting or killing ones)? And to give another way to obtain crystals than just delivering parcels?
A:
For the other missions (this was one of the topics of the last Ryzom Forge meeting) the repetition times have indeed been greatly increased, but so have the gains! In any case, yes, our plan is to highlight ALL of Atys' missions, to make them more attractive.

Improvement for all missions

Tykus (RT) - 20:06 UTC
To help players find a particular NPC, we will add a "Where is... ?" to the dialog box of ALL NPCs.
In order to encourage players to increase the number of their missions (as earnings have been significantly increased) the help function to find other NPCs entrusting missions will be added.

Q:Afair, tourist guides do not have option to point to New Horizons now. Will New Horizons be added to "Where is...?" list?
A:
All useful NPCs will be.

Q: What about those who chose to previously level their crafting solely through missions and who are left now with very long wait times and a stockpile of mats ?
A:
If you exhaust all the crafting missions on the continent, I think your stock of materials will be very lightened…
Q+: But, if you are working on crafting q200 you're not going to want to take a crafting mission that asks and pays for q60!
A+:
You will find missions of the appropriate level in all Atys countries, in tribes etc. You are not about to be able to fill them all out…

Q: Most missions, in some way decrease tribe fame. What about players who don't want to gain or lose any fame?
A:
With the new missions system, if you don't want to change your fame you will have to balance fame gains and losses of the missions you take; there is no way for now not to loose or win fame... Maybe in the future, but the point for now is balancing.
Q+: That's my point though : it's near impossible to do that without knowing exactly how much fame each tribe gives / takes!
A+:
If you ask us to publish a list of all the missions and specify the reputation that each of them gives or takes away, the answer is no... The best part of Ryzom is the discovery. Would we give such a list, we will lose it. I'm afraid you'll have to make the list yourself.

Q: For the factions to be balanced, should there not be neutral missions, as there are Kami, Kara and Maraud missions and tribes loyal to the Rangers as there are to Kara, Kami, and Maraud ?
A:
Sorry, not for now. But you can post your ideas on the forum.

Marauder gameplay improvement

Tykus (RT) - 20:27 UTC
Marauders tribes and missions are in the process of being created and some changes in the missions (the fame rewards of some of them) is a first step in the integration of this addition.

New game content

Tykus (RT) - 20:36 UTC
• Under testing: Addition of the Marauder zone near Nexus Minor
• Work in progress:
  • Creation of the Maraudeur City map, with its NPCs locations, in the main area of the zone
  • Addition of a vortex between Nexus Minor and Marauder zone
• Next steps:
  • Move of the Marauder Camp to the new zone
  • Creation of the new Marauder City
  • Move of the camp's NPCs to their final location inside the City.
The new Marauder map is already on the test server Yubo, the work is in progress.

Q: Will we be able to go there to kill them?
A:
Of course !

Recruitment

Tykus (RT) - 20:53 UTC
• Translation team recruits volunteers!
  • To translate / proofread into Spanish
  • To translate / proofread into Russian
  • To translate / proofread into German
• Support team recruits volunteers!
  • From North America
  • From South America (speaking Spanish and English)
  • From Australia timezone
  • From Spain
• Event team recruits volunteers!
  • From North America
  • From South America (speaking Spanish and English)
  • From Australia timezone
  • From Spain
We have now some dynamics events which can be launched easily, but we need some event lauchers living in US timezone.
If you are interested, please send a mail to tamarea@ryzom.com.

Q : Don't we also need more testers?
A :
Yes, for that just contact Tamarea on Rocket Chat: https://chat.ryzom.com/

21:00 UTC: Tykus closes the meeting.

Edited 2 times | Last edited by Maupas (2 месяца спустя) | Причина: Typo

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#85 [en] 

Nilstilar
Q: Are there any plans to reduce the repetition time for other missions (crafting or killing ones)? And to give another way to obtain crystals than just delivering parcels?
A:
For the other missions (this was one of the topics of the last Ryzom Forge meeting) the repetition times have indeed been greatly increased, but so have the gains! In any case, yes, our plan is to highlight ALL of Atys' missions, to make them more attractive.

Is there any more detailed information regarding this question and the crafting missions? Maybe it is just the translation, but it seems like all missions are just being lumped together, yet Overseer missions ( craft for dappers ) were not broken before, but they are now. Craft missions specifically did NOT receive increased rewards.

SOrry, please delete, I found the rather unsatisfactory answer several lines down :(

Last edited by Placio (4 месяца спустя) | Причина: please delete

#86 [fr] 

Nilstilar

Équilibrage du patch JY 2603 : correction des missions de livraison

Tykus (RT) - 19:47 UTC
Les changements suivants, apportés aux missions de livraison, visent à contrebalancer la perte des récompenses en points de nation accordées auparavant par Nouveaux Horizons :
  • Diminution du poids des colis à livrer

Je trouve dommage de perdre tout l'intérêt de ces missions en réduisant le poids des colis… et par conséquent, supprimer le Mektoub de l'équation.
Ajouter des missions du même genre qui demande l'utilisation de monture et/ou toub de bât aurait été plus intéressant ! Là on a un unique colis à transporter, pourquoi ne pas avoir une missions qui demanderait d'en transporter plusieurs très volumineux et lourd à répartir sur plusieurs toub ?

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#87 [en] 

EDIT:
As promised Ulukyn, I am updating all my recent posts to say thank you for reaching out. Your customer service and real understanding matter a lot.  Thank you for your messages and your efforts. I will wait to see the announcements and the fixes.

I was trying not to get involved because it's only going to make me angry

However, this is so bad, so uncaring, such terrible customer service, I must speak

Crafting missions have straight up been nerfed. The times are days long not hours, the dappers are the same as the Fame which was always bad, is now worse

Then you have the balls to say oh just go to other lands? Listen, I've done all lands high level missions. It's not enough.

Don't you order me to do tribe missions. This is my game, my play. Not your pushing your agenda on me.

Don't say all missions were increased for the time. That's a lie.

Don't tell me that a little package mission boost is enough. I declare, you are not right. It is not enough.

The slap in the face which was the nh Nerf, then being told hey you can go dig.. no. That's not the right way to treat customers.

Sorry we don't sell chocolate anymore, but you can have the vegan beer...

How about I just go find a new shop?

Guess how many people are going to unsubscribe? More than zero,I promise you.

Forcing a mission AGENDA , yes, agenda, is against so much. It's not like the missions are fun either.

No thank you. At times I have kept my sub going just to support the game, not even playing. But no longer.

If anyone is looking for something else to play, it even read, please send me a message. I can recommend lots.

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#88 [en] 

I think that that may have been the goal, Loved; to rid Ryzom of players like you and I who have better things to do than just run around "exploring" a place we already explored repeatedly, who like freedom, and/or who simply did not come here to be treated like second-class citizens.

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#89 [en] 

Gidget
I think that that may have been the goal, Loved; to rid Ryzom of players like you and I who have better things to do than just run around "exploring" a place we already explored repeatedly, who like freedom, and/or who simply did not come here to be treated like second-class citizens.

I don't think things are this bleak. The changes seem well intentioned, just a little hamfisted. They definitely need tweaking. I agree that right now, there is no point in doing crafting missions compared to hunting or digging ones. That needs to be adjusted. Same with faction point rewards.

I don't know about overseer missions in cities, since I obviously can't do those, but tribe prospector missions are great. It's not difficult to make a million dappers in 20 minutes once you know where to dig mission mats.

Don't get me wrong, I was upset by the changes as well, at first. But then I figured out that they're really not *that* bad.

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Explorer, storyteller, universalist, fighter for freedom and equality.

"Without contraries, there is no progression" - William Blake

#90 [en] 

EDIT:
As promised Ulukyn, I am updating all my recent posts to say thank you for reaching out. Your customer service and real understanding matter a lot.  Thank you for your messages and your efforts. I will wait to see the announcements and the fixes.


Hi Lum

I'm not saying there's nothing good. I'm happy some* people got their cake and ate it. I always* advocate more, not less. So, great, we got a well needed buff.

That said, the disrespect to the* section that only got nerfed is laser focused, and very clear. It's not classy at all. The agenda is absolutely transparent. Don't like it? Too bad, suck it, go do something else, stop complaining.

I'm not saying you're doing that. This is the official response. There is no empathy, compassion, understanding or sympathy.

I am not a thing to be talked down to. So, to those of you who enjoy what you got, good. But know this, your day will come. When the make-it-harder crew decide it, your Nerf will come too. They had no care for the lack of balance.

I will not support quietly.
Sorry for the human emotions for a place that was once my home.


Luminatrix
Gidget
I think that that may have been the goal, Loved; to rid Ryzom of players like you and I who have better things to do than just run around "exploring" a place we already explored repeatedly, who like freedom, and/or who simply did not come here to be treated like second-class citizens.

I don't think things are this bleak. The changes seem well intentioned, just a little hamfisted. They definitely need tweaking. I agree that right now, there is no point in doing crafting missions compared to hunting or digging ones. That needs to be adjusted. Same with faction point rewards.

I don't know about overseer missions in cities, since I obviously can't do those, but tribe prospector missions are great. It's not difficult to make a million dappers in 20 minutes once you know where to dig mission mats.

Don't get me wrong, I was upset by the changes as well, at first. But then I figured out that they're really not *that* bad.

Edited 2 times | Last edited by Loved (4 месяца спустя)

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#91 [fr] 

Like say some days ago, changes on mission will be done step by step, hard to balance it correctly in a single shot.

We are working on it, and will apply some fixes soon.

About craft mission, the way to give dappers are different than all other missions.
The missions give the cost in dappers of the crafted items. So to adjust that we need change it, calculate the cost of each items and apply a bonus.
But will not enough, since some missions ask to craft 1 ammo.. for sure we can't reward this missions with 100k of dappers. So, some missions must be adjusted into objetives too.

About replay timer, since we can't change each mission one by one we have apply a formula to calculate the cooldown based on the reward. We will rework the formula to have something more easy like for example 10h, 15h, 20h or 30h and not X hours and Y mins

#92 [fr] 

Ulukyn
Like say some days ago, changes on mission will be done step by step, hard to balance it correctly in a single shot.

We are working on it, and will apply some fixes soon.

About craft mission, the way to give dappers are different than all other missions.
The missions give the cost in dappers of the crafted items. So to adjust that we need change it, calculate the cost of each items and apply a bonus.
But will not enough, since some missions ask to craft 1 ammo.. for sure we can't reward this missions with 100k of dappers. So, some missions must be adjusted into objetives too.

About replay timer, since we can't change each mission one by one we have apply a formula to calculate the cooldown based on the reward. We will rework the formula to have something more easy like for example 10h, 15h, 20h or 30h and not X hours and Y mins

Really glad to see you guys are working on it! Honestly, a lot of the anger from the community could be prevented if we got frequent updates from the dev team, just like this one. It won't work for everyone, of course, but a "we're on it" is quite reassuring to me.

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Luminatrix

Explorer, storyteller, universalist, fighter for freedom and equality.

"Without contraries, there is no progression" - William Blake

#93 [fr] 

As promised Ulukyn, I will update ALL my posts to say thank you for reaching out. Your customer service and real understanding matter a lot. 

Thank you for your messages and your efforts.
Ulukyn
Like say some days ago, changes on mission will be done step by step, hard to balance it correctly in a single shot.

We are working on it, and will apply some fixes soon.

About craft mission, the way to give dappers are different than all other missions.
The missions give the cost in dappers of the crafted items. So to adjust that we need change it, calculate the cost of each items and apply a bonus.
But will not enough, since some missions ask to craft 1 ammo.. for sure we can't reward this missions with 100k of dappers. So, some missions must be adjusted into objetives too.

About replay timer, since we can't change each mission one by one we have apply a formula to calculate the cooldown based on the reward. We will rework the formula to have something more easy like for example 10h, 15h, 20h or 30h and not X hours and Y mins

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