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Über diese App
Die Ruhm-Übersicht zeigt dir (ganz genau) deinen aktuellen Ruhm mit den Stämmen, Zivilisation und den Religionen an; der Schwerpunkt liegt aber auf Stämmen. Falls dein Ruhm mit einem bestimmten Stamm noch nicht verändert worden ist, wird der Start-Ruhm für deine Rasse mit diesem Stamm angezeigt. Jeder Stamm hat eine eigene Übersichtsseite mit einer Liste von wichtigen Homin(a)s, wobei ein Symbol angibt, ob es für dich (in Abhängigkeit deines Ruhms) möglich ist von dieser/diesem Homin/a Missionen zu erhalten. Es gibt eine Übersicht der letzten Änderungen deines Ruhms und eine vollständige Änderungsübersicht aller Ruhm Änderungen seit der ersten Verwendung dieser App.

Wie es funktioniert
Jedes Mal, wenn die Ruhm-Übersicht geöffnet wird, werden deine aktuellen Ruhm Werte aus dem Ryzom API ausgelesen und in eine Datenbank gespeichert. Durch den Vergleich dieser Einträge entsteht auch eine komplette Änderungsübersicht mit jedem/r Stamm/Zivilisation/Religion seit de erstmaligen Verwendung.

API Key
Damit du diese App nutzen kann, bedarf es eines gültigen API Keys, der das Auslesen deines Ruhms erlaubt. Dazu ist es notwendig, dass der API Key den Abschnitt P01 enthält. Du kann selbstverständlich jederzeit in den Profileinstellungen den Key löschen, wodurch dann auch deine gesamten Einträge aus der Datenbank gelöscht werden.

Wie man es benutzt
Installiere die Ruhm-Übersicht (Fame tracker) über die App Zone oder verwende den Befehl /appzone 2132. Danach gib bitte deinen gültigen API Key ein und schon kann es mit der ersten Aktualisierung los gehen...

Sprachenunterstützung
Zum jetzigen Zeitpunkt ist es komplett in Deutsch als auch in Englisch zu erhalten. Französisch und Spanisch sind in Arbeit. Alle Texte können übersetzt werden. Du kannst die Sprache deiner Wahl unter deinen Profileinstellungen wählen. Wenn du mit der Übersetzung in deine Sprache helfen möchtest, dann melde dich bei mir.

#2 [en] 

Oeh, very detailed, me likey good work, thnx

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#3 [en] 

Very nice! I like the details.

One thing I would like to see in a future update is the ability to sort by fame with those tribes that are at/below -50 are all grouped together. It'd be nice to see at a glance who I am KoS with. But for a v0.1 I think it's a great piece of work!

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#4 [en] 

Thank you

Gidget
...One thing I would like to see in a future update is the ability to sort by fame with those tribes that are at/below -50 are all grouped together....

Already in development version

#5 [en] 

Amazing idea!

arc

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#6 [fr] 

Bien pratique, bon travail :)
Il ne reste plus qu'à finir les traductions ^_^

#7 [en] 

Gidget
Very nice! I like the details.

One thing I would like to see in a future update is the ability to sort by fame with those tribes that are at/below -50 are all grouped together. It'd be nice to see at a glance who I am KoS with. But for a v0.1 I think it's a great piece of work!

The BM Fame Tracker app (/appzone 855) sorts them that way.

It groups them into :

-Friendly (above 0)
-Meh (0 to -20)
-Tolerated ( 20 to -50)
-Hated (-50 KoS)

The two apps are well done and very similar.   I used the BM one when I was looking to get off all tribes KoS list and combined with the Bunny Fame Tool (listing who I needed to see to get missions appropriate for my fame), made the task go very quickly.

At first glance, these are the major differences I noted between the two apps:

Graph
-Moniq added the bar graphs w/ the colors, BM just has the numbers.

Recent Actiities
-It looks like Moniq's retains the last activities.
-BM's resets after you log and retains only the last 4 activities
-If you havent done activity in current session, BM goes to "Clean Screen" mode in that respect.

Significant Digits:
-BMs gives ya 2 (0.00) , Moniq gives ya 3 (0.000).


Sorting
BM does the sorting you were looking for.

I'll have to play with Moniq's a bit more but next task in that department will be getting all to max fame and not ready to tackle that one at the moment.

I think you will find either one a great aid if you are chasing the "Spirit of Sally Field Title". When no one will KoS you any longer, this is what it looks like.... no one listed under hated.



And this is what you do when you get there apparently :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWtUVDG5M1w

5 mal geändert | Zuletzt geändert von Fyrosfreddy (vor 7 Jahren)

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#8 [en] 

Fyrosfreddy
-It looks like Moniq's retains the last activities.

All history (changes) are stored untill you reset it in API key settings


Fyrosfreddy
-BMs gives ya 2 (0.00) , Moniq gives ya 3 (0.000).

In fact it can be changed in internal app config. Thinking about allow users to set own number of decimal places (and datetime format). Anyone interested in such options?

#9 [en] 

So when I got rid of my KOS tribes, I'd do 15 or more missions a night .... maybe a button that could clear it could be added ?   or say Keep last [insert # here] Like in Task Manager, being able to add / remove columns would be a nice addition

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#10 [en] 

Fyrosfreddy
So when I got rid of my KOS tribes, I'd do 15 or more missions a night .... maybe a button that could clear it could be added ? or say Keep last [insert # here]

I don't understand what you want to remove. You can see every changeset (all changes in one update) - click date. All history can be removed, if you remain valid API key, all changes to default fame will be saved in one update as on first use.

#11 [en] 

What I am saying is the oppotunity to select what you "wanna see"  and what you "don't want to see" would I think greatly increase its usefullness.   A "less is more" kinda thing.  Some folks would want to see all and more. But other info may be considered of no value and user might prefer a "less busy" screen.  And there will be times when one wants more info, but as that's rare,m betetr that it's not the default

Speaking from my own PoV,...

-If I could "hide" the colored bars, I would
-I would like some of the information to disappear, w/o having to navigate to another screen to make it happen
-I would like to be able to turn off the column that tells me what fame my toon had when I first started oh so long agao :) .

Not that it isn't useful information .. when starting out for example, I likely would have left some of those "unhiddden" for  a bit ... but after a while, if i could, all I'd want to see is:

1. Tribe
2. Current Fame
3. What i got from tribes in last 8 minutes between saves ... if clicking on that would bring up drop down, to show "since log in" but not if it costs me another column on screen.  What I did last Wednesday, I dont want to see on a dat to day basis ... but if sum1 asked... how much did ya get for that fame mission we did last week, to be able to retrive it with a few clicks would be super cool.

4. If clicking the tribe would bring up the map with a dot where they are, that would be super cool :)

So, not suggestion you take anything out, and again its not a criticism.  I am saying that the option to hide columns would make it more useful the way I approach fame grinding.  If the option made it into next version, I would show just those 3 columns 99% of the time so I can access and absorb what I want to focus on that much quicker.

Ahh here's a good example that just came to mind.  A TV guide that shows all 512 channels that can watch is a good thing .. when in the mood, I can broswe thru it and see if there is anything else I may wanna add to my service.  But if I only have 20 channels, browsing to find out what channel "the game is on" is harder than it needs to be if I gotta scroll thru 492 channels that i don't have

It must have been monumental effort to program it to go out and get all that stuff.  But a clean UI has value also, which is why so may program windows show a few key elements on screen by default (aka clean screen) and **if you want more info"", it is accessible thru the "More Info" button.

2 mal geändert | Zuletzt geändert von Fyrosfreddy (vor 7 Jahren)

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#12 [en] 

Woot !  Thanks for adding the Homin search to RyGReg.  I mention it here, because this is the concept I was referring to above. 

I RyGReg I get to the Bunnies page and I see the basic stuff... **If** I want more info, I can click members ... if it was just there by default would be too much.

Zuletzt geändert von Fyrosfreddy (vor 7 Jahren)

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#13 [en] 

Will this satisfy you?

#14 Mehrsprachig 

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[quote=Fyrosfreddy]
Gidget
Very nice! ...
The two apps are well done and very similar.  ...

Hi :)

... are similar when you use an English interface (in ryzom AND in bm).

Cause with the french UI in Ryzom with bm in fr or bm in en, it's not cool (as places and tribes names are not the same):
1. the bm search can't find what we want (as bm don't recog' the french names).
That's why I used TabCraft (and I guess the homin who created it, had the same issue :))
2. IG, the Tribe window showed use the "english version tribe names" sort, and we get a french list in a "wrong alphabetic-text-sort"...

With the new Moniq's app, it's really easy for me to find all I need to up my tribes fames D as the strings sent to bm are translated in english by her app !

Thanks soooo much Moniq (and all other homins who helped her for translations)

Kwkw
CraftJenn

3 mal geändert | Zuletzt geändert von Tamarea (vor 7 Jahren) | Grund: Edit to activate the link.

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Mon profil sur le wiki Francais

https://fr.wiki.ryzom.com/wiki/Utilisatrice:Craftjenn


Craftjenn, Ranger

#15 [en] 

[quote=Moniq]Will this satisfy you?

It's not really a matter of being satisfied. I was impressed with the effort put in and the time it must have taken. But, that being said, while I love having the info at my fingertips, it was just TMI for everyday usage and found it too busy.

Purpose was to provide feedback / suggestions so that when you make edits and improvements, some usability enhancements might give the app wider appeal.

Zuletzt geändert von Fyrosfreddy (vor 7 Jahren)

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