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#65 Added by Muffin 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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.arrogance

#66 Added by Gilgameesh 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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you are arrogant, wanting to teach us something we know since 2004.

Read the posts, the game is broken, and that's it.

Probably WG want this, Wg want all pvp based, but also, don't want to lose our money and try to joke us.

Good luck with your game, my subs will expire soon.

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#67 Added by Muffin 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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idk what you think that you already know but it mustn't be the same as what I know because I cannot seem to replicate what you are talking about - and I am 100% sure that everybody else can do the exact same things as me that I can do (if they even bothered to do it in the exact same way as I am doing)

#68 Added by Muffin 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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you have a problem and I have a solution

but I will not show it to you because you have Negative Fames with Me and you must need atleast 1000 Fames to get any of my Amber Cubes :P

I have already showed a "Multi-Masters" how to do it and they were much different attitude towards it

I have had enough of all of this Arrogance, with being told that how you all are high level Masters and have been playing for so long - if already knows everything then why should I show anything?

#69 Added by Muffin 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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if you really want to learn it then meet me in Silan where we will be on the same level and with access to the same Stanzas/Plans - I don't want to hear about your stupid ego, the simple fact is that I can do it and you cannot - if you do not want to learn then that is your Choices to be make

otherwise I don't want to know about it because I think that this is just silly and very stupid - it's like trying to /telling something into a brickwall

I don't care anymore....I can do it and you can't, I wonder why (it's just because you are closed minded - simple fact Mr Knowitall)

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#70 Added by Bitttymacod 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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Muffin --

If the situation is "I can do it and you can't." Then the game is even MORE broken than we thought because it implies that the problem is client or connection dependent. FF and Gil have tried to explain to you what they have done. The code of the game (not something they have control over) shows that their analysis is correct. Fyros Freddy put it in a very concise form with his description of exactly what stanzas he was using, and you do not seem to have read them.

If you are popping node where they cannot, then it implies that your client (and your connexion to the server) are radically different than theirs, or the situation (random weather etc.) was different when you popped them. They are complaining about a specific situation in a specific location at specific times. If you have not been beside them, then you have not "replicated the situation." Doing it at a different time makes it a different experiment.

And if you think it is all in "how I do it," then you should, as I suggested last night in our conversation, write up exactly how you do it, explain how it gets around the coding problem, and then demonstrate it side by side with either Gil or FF. That is how scientists do it -- that is how Gil and FF have done it.

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(*) This statement is contested, but we are certainly the longest lasting.
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#71 Added by Dareth 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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Bitttymacod (atys)
it implies that the problem is client or connection dependent

I believe this to be the case...at least for the client. I think people on different platforms are running around with several different versions of the client. It seems to cause a lot of trouble with weather, digging, TPs etc etc...even in stuff you would think should be straight forward and coming from server instead of client.

Going to agree that the game is broken though. It seems like the devs are probably trying to deal with an ancient and very messy code base. It's not always easy to track down bugs or make changes under those circumstances. The smallest thing could take hours and changing one thing can dramatically effect something completely different. Add to that different client versions running around and I'm not sure how this all will end well.

I can only hope.

#72 Added by Fyrosfreddy 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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Muffin (atys)
if you really want to learn it then meet me in Silan where we will be on the same level and with access to the same Stanzas/Plans -)

You want to test PR digging in Silan ?

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#73 Added by Fyrosfreddy 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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OK, Gilgameesh (GM) and I (FF) just went down to Sunken City by Haunted Gorge Farm to do more testing. I was on Win7-64, Gilga on Ubuntu.

Exe Shu Fiber - For FF, Exe Shu tracks to 1meter on marked spot. Supreme and Choice prospects say "different class". Exe says "not in area". For GM, exe tracking said 1 meter and prospecting exe said "depleted".

Exe Irin Oil - Exe Irin tracks to 1meter on marked spot. Supreme and Choice prospects say "different class". Exe says "not in area". GM had same experience.

Exe Viscous Sap - Exe Viscous tracks to 1meter on marked spot. Supreme and Choice prospects say "different class". Exe says "not in area". Worse yet, we were both getting "not present in this weather" messages but after a while, I was getting "not present in area" and he was still still getting "weather". Over the next 15 minutes at both the exe viscous spots, I got random "weather" and "not present" sometimes message alternating with every other cast.

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#74 Added by Muffin 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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Post body can't be empty

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#75 Added by Magisty 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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Its been two months now since haloween
How about shipping out the rewards now for the pumpkin quests

#76 Added by Dinorath 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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Fyrosfreddy (atys)
Exe Shu Fiber - For FF, Exe Shu tracks to 1meter on marked spot. Supreme and Choice prospects say "different class". Exe says "not in area". For GM, exe tracking said 1 meter and prospecting exe said "depleted".

this is the problem reported in the ticket. NFNoDepositForFilter has higher priority compared to NFDepositDepleted. the error message will vary depending on the deposit layout, nearby deposits and luck, but the problem is the same. tracking always work afaik.
Exe Irin Oil - Exe Irin tracks to 1meter on marked spot. Supreme and Choice prospects say "different class". Exe says "not in area". GM had same experience.

same problem.
Exe Viscous Sap - Exe Viscous tracks to 1meter on marked spot. Supreme and Choice prospects say "different class". Exe says "not in area". Worse yet, we were both getting "not present in this weather" messages but after a while, I was getting "not present in area" and he was still still getting "weather". Over the next 15 minutes at both the exe viscous spots, I got random "weather" and "not present" sometimes message alternating with every other cast.

same problem. the weather thing tho is working 'fine'. when you prospect, random 'invisible' nodes pop on the ground. if they fall into the deposit area, you get the weather message. if they fall out, you get the 'not present' message. make sure you are well into the deposit area (not in the border) and reduce the prospect distance to have a more consistent result.

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#77 Added by Gasket 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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Wohaaa! Dino comes and saves the day. This guy knows his harvesting, all I know I've learned from him

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Gasket
"It's shite being tryker! We're the lowest of the low. The scum of Atys! The most wretched, miserable, servile, pathetic trash that was ever shat into civilization. Some people hate the Matis. I don't. They're just wankers. We, on the other hand, are COLONIZED by wankers. Can't even find a decent culture to be colonized BY. We're ruled by effete arseholes. It's a shite state of affairs to be in, Marceline, and ALL the fresh air in the world won't make any ****** difference"

#78 Added by Fyrosfreddy 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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Dino:

Regardless of the programming reason it is still not working. If you are using filters, and the filters are working, the priority should be irrelevant. The point we are making is the problem reported by the ticket is highly exacerbated by the fact that supreme, execellent and choice nodes are now in different locations.

It can't be working fine when differenrt clients produce different results. We spent about 2 hours doing this. We were well into the deposit areas, moved around and recast over and over again in same spots and in different spots. I cast well over 80 times on Win 7 and got not present. Gilga case well over 80 times and got different answers. No prospecting distance greater then Range 2 (10 meters) was used.

Over by SC Kami TP, I can see this happening w/o a filter where Exe Mitexi overlaps Choice Oath. But when prospecting for Exe Mitexe Bark, it should ignore anything that is not Mitexe.

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#79 Added by Magisty 1 decade ago Report | Quote[en] 

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Tamarea (atys)



[/list] Event Team news

Halloween

[list][*]Here is the list of winners of the Anlor Winn pumpkin hunt: Klayton, Brainmage, Cyrillis, Alassea, Tendrili, Ninofer, Joabu, Myeomye, Katla, Virila, Feylin, Trixibell, Jagweya, Sharleen, Amalia, Bailei, Elhora, Magisty, Aylina, Ayara, Ciliana, Bonny, Tritonium, Paige, Selkie, Pemalin, Muffin, Shayma, Valandrine, Razaya, Evanok, Awendelle, Xania, Lunamoon, Altamira, Ralolojor, Milandora, Stiara, Krill, Irfidel, Kelda, Studdmuffin, Kaehla, Ramunra.[*]Each winner will receive a title valid for one year and a prize of their choice (a pumpkin for their apartment or a teddy yubo). Titles and prizes will be given out by the events team as soon as the necessary tools are operational again.

Any ETA on the rewards? Its been a while now and im looking forward to the yubo. I think i speak for Aylina too!
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