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An Open Statement Concerning Zo-Kian Outpost Situation

((Entire post is OOC))

I feel that I have to respond to certain statements made in this forum thread:
Trilexis
@ Bitmacod: What did you think ? Even as a neutral you are certainly also informed that the Kamis are on a crusade to conquer lost outposts back. We have reconquered five out of seven lost outposts.
You seem to know my mind better than I do.  In fact, I pay so little attention to Kami/Karavan politics that I had not heard of it at all until Caellan contacted me after the transfer was in process.  Even if I had known -- what does it matter?  The Kami Alliance does not have a right to conquer those outposts on their schedule.

Trilexis
...you have also lost some of your integrity and neutrality because you had to know that the Kamis are not just watching Agan's intrigue. Of course it was not your intention to be Agan’s puppet, but you haven’t thought it to the end.
I was in no way a puppet, and again you claim to know my mind (possibly via telepathy?).  Phaedreas Tears took the decision to accept the offer only after three days of consultation within the guild and forming a consensus (not unanimity) on the matter.  We were aware that it was likely almost to a certainty that the Kami Alliance would attack sooner or later (and most likely sooner). We were prepared to allow this attack without resistance on our part (which we did).

We were indulging ourselves in what is called IRL "a noble experiment,"  an undertaking that is almost certainly doomed to failure, but which would prove glorious if it were to succeed.  As I said in a post about defense, on another thread, "If it succeeds, I will be happy. If it fails, I will be satisfied."

Trilexis
To be neutral does not mean having the sole right to such decisions and the supremacy of having what is and is not morally justifiable.
Neutrality has nothing to do with it -- nothing whatsoever.  As a guild and as an individual we have the right to do as we wish and to say what we wish. Neutrality has nothing to do with whether or not we would attack the Shadowwalkeers -- Phaedreas Tears is a non-PvP (i.e. player vs. player) guild. I am not sure what "neutrality" means to you, but we obviously disagree somewhat.

Caellan
Bittty answer was harsh :
- Op belonged to Shadowalker so it's up to them to decide what to do with it, we have no say in it.
- We had an opportunity to oppose handover defending maraudeurs outpost and fighting rangers (!?)
- Op is now Phaedreas Tears and will remain as such until taken from them, and they would call Rangers and all homins willing to help to defend it.
These three statements are true. I challenge anyone to show how they are not.
I also said something very similar to them in my conversation with Caellan. I don't see how uttering true statements can be seen as harsh, but perhaps it's possible.

I still do not understand why the Kami's did not attack during the phase 2 of the OP battle.  If they were unwilling to kill defending Rangers, they could have scouted and would have found that there were none. We deliberately left the OP undefended with the absolute minimum threshold necessary (per CoC on handovers).  "Defending a Marauder OP" is said as if it were anathema.  What sweeter success would be possible than frustrating "Agan's Plan" by the ironic "defense" of his Outpost?

This post totally fails to communicate the arrogance with which Caellan instituted both his conversation with Itzy and his conversation with me.  It is still present here in small part: Arrogance is in the condescending offer of "a way out of it...", "...could discuss handover of some little outpost...".

As noted above, Phadreas Tears is NOT involved in "real" OP battles.  Furthermore we did not "negotiate" with Marauders, or even with Agan.  We accepted a gift, using the gameplay rules that did not allow for an absolutely free gift. We did it to run an experiment. It was a neutral experiment, run without fear or favor of any Faction, just as we will assist any homin in need, without fear or favor of any Faction.

By my hand,
MacOd Bittty, Guildleader of Phaedreas Tears.

I have screenshots of both Caellan's conversation with Itzy and with myself. I am willing to share them with anyone who asks, but I cannot figure out how to post them into a forum thread using any hosting site that I am willing to deal with.

ETA: P.S.  I admit that I also am subject to a bit of arrogance in my personality.  I would point out that "peacable" is not a synonym for either "meek" or "weak."

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