We had a kami meeting in league with some guild leaders online to talk about Zo-Kian few days after the regular kami meeting, considering it was under attack already by Phaedreas Tears, handover from Shadowalker. Despite what we agreed at kami meeting, to support Obscurus Lilium claiming Zo-Kian, situation had changed.
Some of us seemed angry about this situation, and most of us didnt understand what was going on with Phaedreas Tears. I pointed out that this wasnt what Phaedreas Tears would usually do, they would never be involved in real op battles, and they werent at all for years. It s forbidden for them, as far as i know.
In the end, we agreed that we should talk to Phaedreas Tears first. To explain to them that they shouldnt be standing there in the middle of ongoing op battles, but that we were not blaming them for it, they were most likely caught in Agan's mess. That it's not up to Agan and maraudeurs to decide who is getting outpost and who isnt. Besides, outposts are symbol of power and domination and meant to get earned by wars, especially level 250 ones and that we couldnt give up on this one just because Agan decided otherwise. That we'd like Phaedreas Tears to give up and dont fight npc on this outpost so it remains maraudeurs and we could then attack them as we planned. But, in good faith, to show Phaedreas Tears we care about them and so there is no grudge between us, we could discuss to handover some little outpost to them like we did with other Ranger / Neutral guilds in the past (Le Cercle du Bois d'Almati, Bai Nhori Drakani).
Unfortunately i wasn't able to reach out to Bittty before the handover.
Bittty answer was harsh :
- Op belonged to Shadowalker so it's up to them to decide what to do with it, we have no say in it.
- We had an opportunity to oppose handover defending maraudeurs outpost and fighting rangers (!?)
- Op is now Phaedreas Tears and will remain as such until taken from them, and they would call Rangers and all homins willing to help to defend it.
My opinion on this :
I've spent effort and time to defend Phaedreas Tears in front of kami to give them benefit of the doubt before we had talked to them.
But if Phaedreas Tears are involved in op batlles, negociating with maraudeurs, claiming this outpost, and messing with ongoing op wars, then that's totally different story. Besides they built a kara drill on our land.
We tried to avoid this, we tried to do right and be fair with them and show them some respect offering another outpost. We couldnt do more.
I know i shouldnt take this personnaly but i m sad it had to come to this end, and pissed to have spent efforts trying to avoid this battle for nothing. I'm sorry but this is on Bittty. We offered an honorable way out of this which didnt involve war.
You may not agree with our point of view, but you should also be able to understand it. This is not about Cheng mats, obviously.
Some of us seemed angry about this situation, and most of us didnt understand what was going on with Phaedreas Tears. I pointed out that this wasnt what Phaedreas Tears would usually do, they would never be involved in real op battles, and they werent at all for years. It s forbidden for them, as far as i know.
In the end, we agreed that we should talk to Phaedreas Tears first. To explain to them that they shouldnt be standing there in the middle of ongoing op battles, but that we were not blaming them for it, they were most likely caught in Agan's mess. That it's not up to Agan and maraudeurs to decide who is getting outpost and who isnt. Besides, outposts are symbol of power and domination and meant to get earned by wars, especially level 250 ones and that we couldnt give up on this one just because Agan decided otherwise. That we'd like Phaedreas Tears to give up and dont fight npc on this outpost so it remains maraudeurs and we could then attack them as we planned. But, in good faith, to show Phaedreas Tears we care about them and so there is no grudge between us, we could discuss to handover some little outpost to them like we did with other Ranger / Neutral guilds in the past (Le Cercle du Bois d'Almati, Bai Nhori Drakani).
Unfortunately i wasn't able to reach out to Bittty before the handover.
Bittty answer was harsh :
- Op belonged to Shadowalker so it's up to them to decide what to do with it, we have no say in it.
- We had an opportunity to oppose handover defending maraudeurs outpost and fighting rangers (!?)
- Op is now Phaedreas Tears and will remain as such until taken from them, and they would call Rangers and all homins willing to help to defend it.
My opinion on this :
I've spent effort and time to defend Phaedreas Tears in front of kami to give them benefit of the doubt before we had talked to them.
But if Phaedreas Tears are involved in op batlles, negociating with maraudeurs, claiming this outpost, and messing with ongoing op wars, then that's totally different story. Besides they built a kara drill on our land.
We tried to avoid this, we tried to do right and be fair with them and show them some respect offering another outpost. We couldnt do more.
I know i shouldnt take this personnaly but i m sad it had to come to this end, and pissed to have spent efforts trying to avoid this battle for nothing. I'm sorry but this is on Bittty. We offered an honorable way out of this which didnt involve war.
You may not agree with our point of view, but you should also be able to understand it. This is not about Cheng mats, obviously.