Mitschrift der Akenak-Sitzung in Pyr vom 4. Thermis, 3. AZ 2575 (OOC: 4 November 2013):
Thols sagt: I hope our sisters from Dyron would be there
Zhoi sighs, slightly shaking her head as a sign of hopelessness
Icus sagt: I didn't saw them in a while
Thols sagt: So... Dios ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: Akenak Stiara was at the last Dyron assembly. The Akenos of Dyron organised an inquisition concerning water supply. I don't know why she is not here.
Feylin sagt: (i guess an inquiry rather than an inquisition)
Dios Apotheps sagt: (investigation to be exact. :) )
Feylin sagt: (as long as nobody is tortured ... :) )
Zhoi sagt: (*looks at Sari and murmurs: only when yubos are involved...*)
Dios Apotheps sagt: I think we can start today's assembly?
Thols sagt: akenak Lerya is not feeling great for now, she'll come back when she'll feel better.
Thols sagt: (Eating)
Thols sagt: ney, we're already late
Icus sagt: ney.
Dios Apotheps sagt: Who will lead the assembly today?
Icus sagt: akenak Thols ?
Thols sagt: I can, ney
Dios Apotheps nods thankfully to Thols.
Thols sagt: akep
Thols sagt: So let's figure out what topic do we have to discuss tonight
Thols is trying to figure out something in his papers
Thols sagt: Coriolis... akenak Icus, do you have the last assembly's report ?
Icus sagt: I have my personnal notes from the last one
Thols sagt: Oh ! akep
Icus sagt: We could go on with the last topic list, things didn't changed a lot
Thols sagt: So first one is the akenak uniform
Thols sagt: 2. Moving the Pyr NH
Thols sagt: 3. TENANT Commission
Thols sagt: 4. New NH Stop
Thols sagt: And 5 the Imperial guard renewal
Icus sagt: Yes.
Thols sagt: I'll had a sixth topic if you agree : A law-text proposal
Icus sagt: Yes, of course.
Dios Apotheps nods.
Thols sagt: Do you have any to add ?
Thols sagt: akenak Icus ? celiakos Dios ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: Maybe one or two sentences to the Kitin Camp construction progress.
Thols sagt: I'll had it on a seventh point so
Icus sagt: Hmmm. Nothing i can't remember right now.
Dios Apotheps sagt: Apart from this I don't have any additional topics.
Thols sagt: The akenak uniform...
Thols sagt: That topic is really getting old, and the two that were the most arguing are Dyron's akenos
Thols sagt: It's a problem they didn't showed up tonight.
Icus sagt: Yes ...
Dios Apotheps sagt: Yes, I agree. I have a proposal for this.
Thols sagt: But it's not the first time, maybe we could try something different.
Thols sagt: ney, we are listening celiakos.
Dios Apotheps sagt: I have seen a draft for it, a design. (ooc: Made on ballisic mystix) Did you receive this draft already?
Dios Apotheps sagt: I could send this draft to you so you can take a look on it. Hopefully this brings some progress.
Thols sagt: Actually, we already tried to work on this a long time ago with all the akenak
Thols sagt: But Dyron's akenos didn't said what they think about the drafts, they only send us their drafts
Icus sagt: And we didn't got any news after that
Dios Apotheps sagt: I see.
Thols sagt: Maybe we should ask officially at Dyron akenos assembly ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: Yes, I will inform them about your visit.
Thols sagt: ney, do you agree akenak Icus ?
Icus sagt: Of course. We need this thing to be decided as soon as possible
Icus sagt: we waited too many time ...
Thols sagt: ney, so it's decided, I write it down.
Thols sagt: About moving the Pyr NH
Thols sagt: (second point, sorry)
Icus sagt: akenak lerya sent a letter to the NH about that
Icus sagt: But she didn't get an answer, as far as i know
Thols sagt: ney, we'll save this point for when she'll come back, so.
Dios Apotheps sagt: As far as I know a moving of the NH is possible, it's just the question to which position.
Fyranth raises her hand
Thols sagt: ney, spectator Fyranth ?
Fyranth sagt: I have been told that the Zorais had asked for the NH transporter in Zora to be moved
Fyranth sagt: And that they got a positive answer
Fyranth sagt: Despite that, it seems that the transporter often goes back to his first location
Zhoi nods confirming to Fyranths words
Fyranth sagt: Maybe the new position should be chosen accordingly to the transpoter preferences
Thols sagt: Damn... this homin must have homesick I guess
Fyranth sagt: Otherwise, he may go back to his previous location without warning
Fyranth sagt: That's all I wanted to say
Fyranth sagt: akep
Icus sagt: Anyway, since they didn't answered, we can't do anything at the moment
Thols sagt: Hmm...
Thols sagt: I think we should decide of a location when Lerya will come back.
Dios Apotheps agrees.
Thols sagt: If we have positive answer, it'll be quick to ask for the change.
Icus sagt: We already did that
Thols sagt: If we don't, we'll knock some heads.
Thols sagt: ney, has it been decided by a vote ?
Fyranth wonders if the transporter voted also
Icus sagt: Hmm, yes
Icus sagt: Well we couldn't speak to the transporter though, but the akenak agreed
Thols sagt: ney, so I'll write it down, it's now only administration problem.
Icus sagt: Sadly, yes
Thols sagt: Third point : The TENANT Commission
Thols sagt: What was the point about it ?
Icus sagt: celiakos Abycus said at the last Thesos assembly that sharükos allowed us to recreate one. He also said that the Zoraï agreed on that.
Thols sagt: Patriot Geyos seems to be waiting for some approval, but it's not written what.
Thols sagt: Old memories...
Zhoi snorts
Icus sagt: He is gathering interested patriot, he said at the last assembly. Any patriot interested in helping can contact him
Icus sagt: maybe celiakos have new information about that, specifically about the Kingdom and Federation approval
Thols sagt: celiakos Dios ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: I have no informations about the foreign affairs. For this we have the ambassadors.
Zhoi sagt: (OOC. please mind that only Aniro had a TENANT-treaty and "commission". For everyone else it is NO recreation at all)=
Thols sagt: ney, anyway it doesn't concern us if they don't want anything from us.
Icus sagt: Well an international commission without the approval of two nation is kind of ... strange
Thols sagt: So as the announcement have been made a second time, I think we could move to the next topic.
Icus sagt: Yes.
Thols sagt: So fourth point : A new NH stop
Thols sagt: Welcome back akenak Lerya, please take place
Thols sagt: So, we were talking about the fourth point : A new NH stop
Thols sagt: Someone asked if a supplementary stop could be done, especially in the scorched corridor
Ventron verzweifelt...die Dinge könnten sich nicht schlimmer entwickeln.
Icus sagt: Welcome back lerya
Lerya sagt: Akep akenak Icus
Thols sagt: What do you think about that ?
Lerya sagt: We talk about this in the last assembly.
Lerya sagt: We decide to send a letter to the transporters.
Lerya sagt: Asking about this and the Pyr transporter move.
Thols sagt: Is the letter sent ?
Lerya sagt: Yes. I sent both questions to them. Nothing by now.
Thols sagt: Everyone agreed the new NH stop between the akenak ?
Thols sagt: By voting I mean
Lerya sagt: Yes.
Dios Apotheps sagt: As Celiakos Abycus said last time, a new destination is only possible for some short time for special occasions.
Ventron fühlt eine Welle der Erleichterung in sich.
Lerya sagt: ney. I was about to tell that.
Thols sagt: So the answer is dey ?
Icus sagt: ney, the answer is dey
Lerya sagt: I don´t have any answer from the Transporters, but I think isn´t ney, is more like a "not by now".
Dios Apotheps sagt: It would demand a lot of ressources.
Dios Apotheps sagt: To build and keep such a NH stop in the wilderness.
Dios Apotheps sagt: So it only can be done temporary, but not permanent.
Lerya nods.
Lerya sagt: And about the Pyr one.
Thols sagt: We agreed that as the new position as been voted
Thols sagt: It's now only an administration problem, they'll do it if they can.
Dios Apotheps nods.
Dios Apotheps sagt: This should be no problem.
Lerya sagt: Voted now? Last time wasn´t and I was told to ask to Transporters. But , it´s ok.
Thols sagt: dey, voted last time apparently
Thols sagt: Even if we aren't sure that it is possible, so the letter is still usefull.
Icus sagt: I'm pretty sure we voted. at least to send a letter to check if it's really possible
Thols sagt: ney, but the vote we need is to know the new location of the NH
Thols sagt: Sending a letter for informations doesn't involve us in great things.
Lerya sagt: We talk and thought that Cerakos is the best place. But the visitors talk with us too.
Icus sagt: We were lacking vote to actually take a decision
Lerya sagt: We decide to ask if it is posible to change and if we can make something like an experiment to check in wich of the gates the NH is use most of the time
Thols sagt: We can't afford to wait for everyone to be here to vote.
Lerya sagt: Experiment was that: making a NH available in evey gate and check what is the most used one. And then erase the rest.
Lerya sagt: We talk about that, and I asked that in the letter.
Thols sagt: That would cost a lot, don't you think ?
Thols sagt: Why not let people vote ?
Thols sagt: We could do a survey to patriots
Thols sagt: What do you think ?
Icus sagt: That's a good idea, too
Lerya sagt: Agree with that.
Dios Apotheps nods.
Thols sagt: Great, anything on that ?
Thols sagt: Or we switch to the next point ?
Icus sagt: Nothing else.
Lerya sagt: We can continue.
Thols sagt: Fifth point : The imperial guard renewal
Icus sagt: celiakos Abycus told us a member of the burned face would come to the next akenak assembly
Thols sagt: There's new idea to stuff the army, I don't know much about this
Thols sagt: So... this assembly ?
Icus sagt: Yes, but i don't see him/her
Icus sagt: They are the most aware of the guard and army needs.
Dios Apotheps sagt: Since Celiakos Abycus couldn't be hear, I'm afraid this has to be reported.
Dios Apotheps sagt: And the Member of the Burned Face.
Thols sagt: ney, so it'll be quick.
Thols sagt: But i have a word to say on that.
Thols sagt: Maybe it's a good thing to put the raw material priority on Kitin outposts
Icus sagt: Yes, the proposal was before the kitin outpost construction.
Thols sagt: Oh, didn't know that
Thols sagt: So what do you think about the priority ?
Icus sagt: Kitins outpost, definitively.
Lerya sagt: Agree.
Dios Apotheps sagt: I agree with this. The Kitin presence seems to grow slowly.
Thols sagt: So maybe we could talk about it right now, and we'll talk about the law point in last
Icus sagt: Yes, why not
Thols sagt: celiakos Dios ? You have something to say about it ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: The sharükos wants to express that he is proud of what his people has achieved so far.
Dios Apotheps sagt: But time seems to get short since the kitins are getting more and more active.
Dios Apotheps sagt: But as I see the Akenak realised this already.
Dios Apotheps sagt: So I have nothing more to add at the moment.
Thols sagt: So maybe it would be great to accelerate the help patriots could provide.
Icus sagt: It would be awesome if we could do this
Icus sagt: Maybe the barker can help ? I'm assuming the whole sharük is already digging for it.
Thols sagt: Barkers would be of a great help, maybe we could send them a letter ?
Lerya sagt: We can try.
Dios Apotheps nods.
Thols sagt: akenak please raise your hands if you agree to ask help to the Barkers
Thols raise his hand
Icus raises his hand.
Lerya sagt: Lerya raises her hand.
Thols sagt: Great, who want to do that ?
Icus sagt: I can do it.
Thols sagt: Great
Thols sagt: So, last point
Thols sagt: A law text as been written and is purposed to be proposed to the sharük
Thols sagt: It would write down all laws of behaviour that bounds akenak, akenos and patriots
Thols sagt: Also during the assemblies
Thols sagt: Icus is already working on it an Lerya is starting to be in
Icus nods.
Thols sagt: I propose that it would be all ready and traduced in the three dialects for the next general assembly
Thols sagt: What do you think of it, celiakos ? and patriots ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: I don't know the content, but of course I'm willing to take a look at the text to judge.
Icus liebt Eloan.
Icus liebt Eloan.
Icus liebt Eloan.
Thols sagt: ney, of course, but it's on the principal.
Thols sagt: Would it be possible to admit for the celiak ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: A law often means that someone can be punished if he doesn't follow it?
Thols sagt: ney
Thols sagt: Sanctions would be added with the law too
Dios Apotheps sagt: It may be quite restrictive if someone can be punished for not acting in a certain way. It depens on how strict these behaviors are.
Thols sagt: ney, but law is nothing without sanctions.
Lerya sagt: That´s true. If we don´t make sanctions, we don´t need any law.
Icus agrees with the two akenak.
Dios Apotheps sagt: I really can't judge it without having an example what kind of behavior it is.
Thols sagt: ney, we can understand, but we'll talk about it when it'll be written down definitly
Dios Apotheps nods.
Feylin seems intriged
Lerya sagt: What I mean is that we can have a protocol, big or small, but not all the people is up to behave according to that protocol. So if there isn´t a sanction, those people won´t help to us.
Thols nods
Thols sagt: Maybe patriots or visitors have some questions about it ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: During an assembly, the Akenos has all righs to create a protocol and to take actions to ensure that it is obeyed.
Thols sagt: It would also restrict precisely the rights of an akenos
Thols sagt: So there's no abusive use of power
Thols sagt: I guess it would be better for everyone
Dios Apotheps sagt: In principle I have nothing against it. For the details we will have to see.
Thols nods : He were thinking about it like that
Icus sagt: We'll need the definitive version of it, of course
Thols sagt: I guess if no ones have something to add, we can ear our patriots and visitors for anything they want
Thols sagt: Please raise your hand if you want to say a word
Zhoi raises her hand and stands up at the same time: I have something to say, even though it is not exactly urgent. It might have to do a bit with the ominous TENANT you mentioned. Perhaps...
Thols sagt: ney, you can talk visitor Zhoi
Zhoi sagt: as I have already told to the Rangers at their Assembly: we Zorai have asked and have been granted permission by our Sages to form an international institution that shall phrase a new, unified version of two old treaties
Zhoi sagt: the Sages said that representatives from each city and each neutral group should get together in this institution...
Zhoi sagt: it is not an urgent matter as I said, but you might want to start thinking of who you want to send. If you want to send a representative for this
Zhoi sagt: as you know there are different old versions of the treaty of the four nations and the free trade agreement... so this institution shall find a new phrasing together...
Thols sagt: Do anyone official from the TENANT thing asked for official relation of the sharük ?
Zhoi sagt: I am not sure what commission YOU were talking about and what kind of "agreeement" by the Theocracy, as no Fyros has proposed anything like a commission to us at our Assemblies...
Icus sagt: I'm pretty sure patriot Geyos asked to represdent the sharük in this commision.
Zhoi sagt: I am asking YOU today to please ask your Sharük for permission to take part at this institution
Thols sagt: So it's an official ask from TENANT ?
Zhoi sagt: and please send someone who is interested in finding a solution together with everyone, not someone who just wants to quarrel....
Zhoi sagt: uhm, sorry... are you asking me? *looks at Thols* about TENANT?
Thols sagt: Please don't judge our assembly before it haven't taken any decision
Thols sagt: ney, you seem to talk in the name of the TENANT, is that ask official ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: I may have to add that the concept "tenant" is not very known in many cities. I'm sure in some dialects, the simple homin is completely lost if they hear this word.
Zhoi sagt: you might have misunderstood my words. I did not judge anyone
Zhoi sagt: look, I already said that I don't know what TENANT even means...
Dios Apotheps sagt: I think this is true for many many homins, even those who are active in politics.
Zhoi sagt: I have been a Zorai-representatives for many years and have never heard about that... Geyos said something like this but then talked about the treaty of the four nations...
Thols sagt: So it's only a piece of advice ?
Zhoi sagt: it is a personal plea
Thols sagt: (Treaty of the four nations is at first raw Lore for every server)
Thols sagt: (Aniro just updated it for itself)
Zhoi sagt: (I know about the treaty of four nations, but no TENANT!)
Thols sagt: ney, akenak, do you think we should send an official emissary to the TENANT commission ?
Icus sagt: Well
Dios Apotheps sagt: (indeed the term TENANT is completely unkown and still ver misterious for players from Leanon and Arispotle. It may contribute to problems forming such a commission.)
Icus sagt: it seems obvious the sharük needs a representative at the tenant commision
Zhoi sagt: our beloved Grand Sage said that this institution shall not be an institution of the past, but a new one
Thols sagt: ney, I guess I has a point on that
Zhoi sagt: it's name has not been decided upon...
Thols sagt: akenak Lerya, what do you think of it ?
Thols sagt: Should we send someone officially ?
Lerya sagt: About having a representative?
Thols sagt: ney, exactly
Zhoi sagt: please choose one representative for each city
Zhoi sagt: if possible
Jarnys sagt: (just call ist "new international treaty commission" and nobody will be too confused by its name)
Lerya sagt: ney, we should. And that was my next question, Only one?
Zhoi sagt: if one city should decide to not send a representative, well... nothing we can do about that
Icus sagt: It's definitively too much
Icus sagt: 1 reprensetative for each city means 3 per nation
Thols sagt: As Zhoi suggest, maybe one akenos for each dialect ?
Zhoi sagt: it is what the honored Sages and our most wise Grand Mask decided
Icus sagt: With 5 nation including ranger it means 15 homins
Icus sagt: akenak Thols can witness, speech were harsh with only 5 homins back in the time
Zhoi sagt: there might also be more neutrals... those who sympathize with the Trytonists and those who don't trust any neutral factions...
Icus sagt: I don't think we can ever get an agreement with at least 15 homins speaking
Thols sagt: ney visitor Zhoi, but here you are under the sharükos rules
Zhoi looks at Icus and shrugs her shoulders
Thols sagt: ney, back in time with only 5 people, negociations have been hard
Zhoi sagt: I don't know of any talks amongst 5 people....
Lerya sagt: I guess no akenos talks the 3 dialects right?
Zhoi sagt: this will be an institution of the present, and if you send reasonable homins, they will surely be able to come to a conclusion together
Thols sagt: Last time (on Aniro), negociations have been made by 5 people, one ranger and from the four nations
Thols sagt: I've been the one from the sharük, and the writing of the treaty have been long
Zhoi sagt: even if one homin should be able to speak all three main dialects of Atys, the Sages explicitely asked for one representative of each city if possible
Thols sagt: ney
Thols sagt: But it is the desert, not the jungle.
Zhoi sagt: it is the present, not the past
Icus sagt: It doesn't mean we can act foolishly
Thols sagt: That's right, but does not make any point
Thols sagt: akenak Lerya, I don't think we have one, ney
Lerya sagt: Akep akenak Thols.
Thols sagt: akenak Lerye, Icus, what do you think ?
Zhoi sagt: well; I've said all that had to be said... our beloved Great Mask Mabreka Cho has spoken wise words just like always. May the representatives be just as wise and know what "voting" means... *sits down again*
Thols sagt: ney, we know what voting means
Thols sagt: akep visitor Zhoi
Zhoi nods, seemingly content
Icus sagt: as i said, if we have 3 representatives per nation, we will never get a finalized treaty approved by everyone
Thols sagt: ney, this is a good point, akenak Lerya ?
Zurchkuchna raises his hand.
Lerya sagt: Every akenak knows what the sharük needs. One should be enough.
Thols say to Zurchkuchna : ney, you'll have your turn just after
Lerya sagt: I don´t have nothing more to add about this by now.
Thols sagt: So akenak that agree to send only one representative, please raise your hand
Thols raise his hand
Icus raises his hand.
Lerya raises her hand.
Zhoi looks at the Celiakos
Thols sagt: So only one would be send in the name of the sharük
Zhoi sagt: (is it allowed to exclude absent players from taking part at roleplay by voting amongst those who band together against them?)
Feylin raise a hand
Thols sagt: (If it wasn't, there'll be no way to cote anything...)
Thols sagt: So, now to Zurchkuchna.
Zurchkuchna sagt: I had a little remark, but now it is decided: if there will be three represantives of each nation, but only one of Fyros - whose voice will be louder? Your cities won't be that quarreling, that three represantives won't be an advantage for your nation?
Thols sagt: If our nation doesn't agree, the sharükos won't sign it.
Thols sagt: It's as simple as that.
Zurchkuchna nods and sits down again
Thols sagt: akep Zurchkuchna
Thols sagt: Now Fey-Lin
Feylin sagt: I'm still confuse about those memorise differences ... but please remember me Thols ....
Feylin sagt: Wasn't there more than 5 peoples involved in the commission, in the past ?
Thols sagt: dey, it was only five people to decide
Thols sagt: Kiwalie for neutral representative
Thols sagt: Kaaon for the Federation
Thols sagt: (God I'm forgetting names...)
Feylin sagt: (Riddick and Kaikyo ? :p)
Icus sagt: (and you for the Empire :p)
Thols sagt: (Not Riddick ! But thanks for Kaikyo !)
Thols sagt: Kaikyo for the Theocraty
Icus sagt: (Reedetch à l'époque non ?)
Thols sagt: And... maybe Reedeek, an old friend for the Royalty
Thols sagt: And I for the sharük
Dios Apotheps sagt: Well I am sure that if a representant from Dyron or Pyr wants to join the negotiations no akenos would stand against this wish.
Thols sagt: It was just after the Fyros/Matis war
Thols sagt: ney, but it won't be official from the shaük
Zhoi shakes her head in disbelief
Feylin sagt: Seems you already assume the representant of the empire will be from Thesos
Thols sagt: We don't know, that's why I don't think it's good to vote our representant right now
Icus sagt: We could ask the candidate to come at next Pyr assembly.
Thols sagt: ney, that patriot is not necesserely an akenak
Thols sagt: He just have to speak in the name of the sharük
Feylin sagt: Well, on another topic, I am curious of the need for punisment to accompany your laws
Thols sagt: Curiosity is a great quality
Feylin sagt: I mean, your laws about behavior for patriots, akenos and akenaks
Lerya sagt: That is what means law or even a rule. If you don´t do something you have a punishment or sanction. If notis only protocol, you can do it or not.
Thols sagt: As an akenak, if there is someone from TENANT here, I'd like to say I'd prefer an official ask for representant than a piece of advice
Zhoi stands up
Zhoi sagt: I am an official ambassador
Zhoi sagt: I have officially told you about the decision of our Sages
Thols sagt: I said from TENANT, not from the Theocraty, please keep focus.
Zhoi sagt: if the words of our Grand Sage are not "good" for you... *sounds very angry* then... then... *snorts and sits down again*
Feylin sagt: Thols, there is no commission yet, so you ask for something that cannot be.
Thols sagt: I appreciate some words from the Ma-Kwaï, but my loyalty is to the sharükos.
Zhoi sagt: it is very possible that there will not be a TENANT ever again...
Zhoi sagt: this new institution will very likely bear a new name
Zhoi sagt: please don't ignore the words of our most honored Mabreka Cho
Thols sagt: If only the name bothers you, I can understand.
Feylin make a sign toward Zhoi
Zhoi sagt: as your representatives will be a part of this new institution, how could someone from this institution come to ask you right now?
Thols sagt: Last time, it was a clear ask to every country, I don't know why it can't be possible right now
Icus sagt: Last time we didn't had to deal with Zhoi
Icus sagt: That's why.
Zhoi shrugs her shoulders: what last time? Forget about older times
Thols sagt: Please all calm down
Thols sagt: My point is
Zhoi sagt: of course the times have changed, and they will go on changing. Some political representatives retire, new ones start to take up political work...
Thols sagt: Neutral could do some work by their own and then invite nations to joins us, right ?
Zhoi sagt: why neutrals?
Zhoi sagt: I have informed the rangers about this plans already...
Thols sagt: Because they are neutrals
Feylin sagt: I'm sorry Thols, but your point is not clear
Zhoi sagt: I will not accept neutrals to be treated as if they were something "better" than those who represent their nations
Zhoi sagt: why would you proud Fyros do that?
Thols sagt: Not something better, something neutral, objective
Thols sagt: Fyros are logical people, that's the right thing to do
Zhoi shakes her head: this institution should be formed by all representatives from all cities and neutral factions as equals
Icus sagt: neutral "faction"
Zhoi sagt: at least this is how I understood the words of our Sages
Icus sagt: We are speaking about rewriting the treaty of the four "nation"
Thols ruft: ALL PLEASE STOP
Zhoi sagt: but also the free trade agreement...
Thols sagt: All this is a debate that doesn't need any assembly approvment
Thols sagt: So the assembly is finished.
Thols sagt: All other discussion can be discussed later.
Thols sagt: akep
Thols sagt: celiakos Dios ?
Fyranth nods
Dios Apotheps nods too.
Thols sagt: Could you end up the assembly ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: We can close the assembly, yes.
Dios Apotheps sagt: Before I leave, just a few additional words to the actual discussion from my personal perspective.
Dios Apotheps sagt: Whatever the nations decide how their representatives for the negotiations of the treaties are determined, or how many there will be,
Dios Apotheps sagt: it will only work if it is also accepted by the homins - at least by the people who feel responsible for their nations.
Dios Apotheps sagt: I can understand the sorrows of homins speaking dialects if they feel "not at home" or even excluded if old terms are used and if a past is taken as a reference that is not theirs.
Dios Apotheps sagt: It is my personal belief that it is necessary to keep that in mind to make these treaties a success.
Dios Apotheps sagt: Akep.
Thols nods
Icus nods.
Dios Apotheps sagt: I'm sorry but I have to leave. Oren Fyraï.
Dios Apotheps verbeugt sich voller Respekt.
Feylin verbeugt sich vor Dios Apotheps.
Ventron verbeugt sich vor Dios Apotheps.
Icus sagt: oren fyraï celiakos.
Lerya sagt: oren fyraï
Fyranth begrüßt Dios Apotheps mit einer vornehmen Verbeugung.
Thols sagt: oren fyraï celiakos
Jarnys asks Zhoi silently: can you send me an izam if there are any news regarding the new treaty? I might miss something important otherwise while on travels...
Zhoi nods to Jarnys: gladly
Jarnys ist Zhoi dankbar.
Lerya winkt Icus zu.
Icus sagt: Honorate awakened zhoi, or whatever you are
Thols sagt: Daaaamn...
Icus sagt: I truly believe you are actually working for the marauder
Icus sagt: I don't see any other rational explanations for you trying to disrupt every single assembly i saw you in.
Zhoi steps back from Icus
}Zhoi sagt: this is exactly the thing I could say about you... "Akenak" *spits out the word*
Icus sagt: So much trouble, with only one homin
Icus sagt: I must say i'm kind of impressed.
Zhoi sagt: pf!
Zhoi turns around without a further word
Thols sagt: I hope our sisters from Dyron would be there
Zhoi sighs, slightly shaking her head as a sign of hopelessness
Icus sagt: I didn't saw them in a while
Thols sagt: So... Dios ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: Akenak Stiara was at the last Dyron assembly. The Akenos of Dyron organised an inquisition concerning water supply. I don't know why she is not here.
Feylin sagt: (i guess an inquiry rather than an inquisition)
Dios Apotheps sagt: (investigation to be exact. :) )
Feylin sagt: (as long as nobody is tortured ... :) )
Zhoi sagt: (*looks at Sari and murmurs: only when yubos are involved...*)
Dios Apotheps sagt: I think we can start today's assembly?
Thols sagt: akenak Lerya is not feeling great for now, she'll come back when she'll feel better.
Thols sagt: (Eating)
Thols sagt: ney, we're already late
Icus sagt: ney.
Dios Apotheps sagt: Who will lead the assembly today?
Icus sagt: akenak Thols ?
Thols sagt: I can, ney
Dios Apotheps nods thankfully to Thols.
Thols sagt: akep
Thols sagt: So let's figure out what topic do we have to discuss tonight
Thols is trying to figure out something in his papers
Thols sagt: Coriolis... akenak Icus, do you have the last assembly's report ?
Icus sagt: I have my personnal notes from the last one
Thols sagt: Oh ! akep
Icus sagt: We could go on with the last topic list, things didn't changed a lot
Thols sagt: So first one is the akenak uniform
Thols sagt: 2. Moving the Pyr NH
Thols sagt: 3. TENANT Commission
Thols sagt: 4. New NH Stop
Thols sagt: And 5 the Imperial guard renewal
Icus sagt: Yes.
Thols sagt: I'll had a sixth topic if you agree : A law-text proposal
Icus sagt: Yes, of course.
Dios Apotheps nods.
Thols sagt: Do you have any to add ?
Thols sagt: akenak Icus ? celiakos Dios ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: Maybe one or two sentences to the Kitin Camp construction progress.
Thols sagt: I'll had it on a seventh point so
Icus sagt: Hmmm. Nothing i can't remember right now.
Dios Apotheps sagt: Apart from this I don't have any additional topics.
Thols sagt: The akenak uniform...
Thols sagt: That topic is really getting old, and the two that were the most arguing are Dyron's akenos
Thols sagt: It's a problem they didn't showed up tonight.
Icus sagt: Yes ...
Dios Apotheps sagt: Yes, I agree. I have a proposal for this.
Thols sagt: But it's not the first time, maybe we could try something different.
Thols sagt: ney, we are listening celiakos.
Dios Apotheps sagt: I have seen a draft for it, a design. (ooc: Made on ballisic mystix) Did you receive this draft already?
Dios Apotheps sagt: I could send this draft to you so you can take a look on it. Hopefully this brings some progress.
Thols sagt: Actually, we already tried to work on this a long time ago with all the akenak
Thols sagt: But Dyron's akenos didn't said what they think about the drafts, they only send us their drafts
Icus sagt: And we didn't got any news after that
Dios Apotheps sagt: I see.
Thols sagt: Maybe we should ask officially at Dyron akenos assembly ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: Yes, I will inform them about your visit.
Thols sagt: ney, do you agree akenak Icus ?
Icus sagt: Of course. We need this thing to be decided as soon as possible
Icus sagt: we waited too many time ...
Thols sagt: ney, so it's decided, I write it down.
Thols sagt: About moving the Pyr NH
Thols sagt: (second point, sorry)
Icus sagt: akenak lerya sent a letter to the NH about that
Icus sagt: But she didn't get an answer, as far as i know
Thols sagt: ney, we'll save this point for when she'll come back, so.
Dios Apotheps sagt: As far as I know a moving of the NH is possible, it's just the question to which position.
Fyranth raises her hand
Thols sagt: ney, spectator Fyranth ?
Fyranth sagt: I have been told that the Zorais had asked for the NH transporter in Zora to be moved
Fyranth sagt: And that they got a positive answer
Fyranth sagt: Despite that, it seems that the transporter often goes back to his first location
Zhoi nods confirming to Fyranths words
Fyranth sagt: Maybe the new position should be chosen accordingly to the transpoter preferences
Thols sagt: Damn... this homin must have homesick I guess
Fyranth sagt: Otherwise, he may go back to his previous location without warning
Fyranth sagt: That's all I wanted to say
Fyranth sagt: akep
Icus sagt: Anyway, since they didn't answered, we can't do anything at the moment
Thols sagt: Hmm...
Thols sagt: I think we should decide of a location when Lerya will come back.
Dios Apotheps agrees.
Thols sagt: If we have positive answer, it'll be quick to ask for the change.
Icus sagt: We already did that
Thols sagt: If we don't, we'll knock some heads.
Thols sagt: ney, has it been decided by a vote ?
Fyranth wonders if the transporter voted also
Icus sagt: Hmm, yes
Icus sagt: Well we couldn't speak to the transporter though, but the akenak agreed
Thols sagt: ney, so I'll write it down, it's now only administration problem.
Icus sagt: Sadly, yes
Thols sagt: Third point : The TENANT Commission
Thols sagt: What was the point about it ?
Icus sagt: celiakos Abycus said at the last Thesos assembly that sharükos allowed us to recreate one. He also said that the Zoraï agreed on that.
Thols sagt: Patriot Geyos seems to be waiting for some approval, but it's not written what.
Thols sagt: Old memories...
Zhoi snorts
Icus sagt: He is gathering interested patriot, he said at the last assembly. Any patriot interested in helping can contact him
Icus sagt: maybe celiakos have new information about that, specifically about the Kingdom and Federation approval
Thols sagt: celiakos Dios ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: I have no informations about the foreign affairs. For this we have the ambassadors.
Zhoi sagt: (OOC. please mind that only Aniro had a TENANT-treaty and "commission". For everyone else it is NO recreation at all)=
Thols sagt: ney, anyway it doesn't concern us if they don't want anything from us.
Icus sagt: Well an international commission without the approval of two nation is kind of ... strange
Thols sagt: So as the announcement have been made a second time, I think we could move to the next topic.
Icus sagt: Yes.
Thols sagt: So fourth point : A new NH stop
Thols sagt: Welcome back akenak Lerya, please take place
Thols sagt: So, we were talking about the fourth point : A new NH stop
Thols sagt: Someone asked if a supplementary stop could be done, especially in the scorched corridor
Ventron verzweifelt...die Dinge könnten sich nicht schlimmer entwickeln.
Icus sagt: Welcome back lerya
Lerya sagt: Akep akenak Icus
Thols sagt: What do you think about that ?
Lerya sagt: We talk about this in the last assembly.
Lerya sagt: We decide to send a letter to the transporters.
Lerya sagt: Asking about this and the Pyr transporter move.
Thols sagt: Is the letter sent ?
Lerya sagt: Yes. I sent both questions to them. Nothing by now.
Thols sagt: Everyone agreed the new NH stop between the akenak ?
Thols sagt: By voting I mean
Lerya sagt: Yes.
Dios Apotheps sagt: As Celiakos Abycus said last time, a new destination is only possible for some short time for special occasions.
Ventron fühlt eine Welle der Erleichterung in sich.
Lerya sagt: ney. I was about to tell that.
Thols sagt: So the answer is dey ?
Icus sagt: ney, the answer is dey
Lerya sagt: I don´t have any answer from the Transporters, but I think isn´t ney, is more like a "not by now".
Dios Apotheps sagt: It would demand a lot of ressources.
Dios Apotheps sagt: To build and keep such a NH stop in the wilderness.
Dios Apotheps sagt: So it only can be done temporary, but not permanent.
Lerya nods.
Lerya sagt: And about the Pyr one.
Thols sagt: We agreed that as the new position as been voted
Thols sagt: It's now only an administration problem, they'll do it if they can.
Dios Apotheps nods.
Dios Apotheps sagt: This should be no problem.
Lerya sagt: Voted now? Last time wasn´t and I was told to ask to Transporters. But , it´s ok.
Thols sagt: dey, voted last time apparently
Thols sagt: Even if we aren't sure that it is possible, so the letter is still usefull.
Icus sagt: I'm pretty sure we voted. at least to send a letter to check if it's really possible
Thols sagt: ney, but the vote we need is to know the new location of the NH
Thols sagt: Sending a letter for informations doesn't involve us in great things.
Lerya sagt: We talk and thought that Cerakos is the best place. But the visitors talk with us too.
Icus sagt: We were lacking vote to actually take a decision
Lerya sagt: We decide to ask if it is posible to change and if we can make something like an experiment to check in wich of the gates the NH is use most of the time
Thols sagt: We can't afford to wait for everyone to be here to vote.
Lerya sagt: Experiment was that: making a NH available in evey gate and check what is the most used one. And then erase the rest.
Lerya sagt: We talk about that, and I asked that in the letter.
Thols sagt: That would cost a lot, don't you think ?
Thols sagt: Why not let people vote ?
Thols sagt: We could do a survey to patriots
Thols sagt: What do you think ?
Icus sagt: That's a good idea, too
Lerya sagt: Agree with that.
Dios Apotheps nods.
Thols sagt: Great, anything on that ?
Thols sagt: Or we switch to the next point ?
Icus sagt: Nothing else.
Lerya sagt: We can continue.
Thols sagt: Fifth point : The imperial guard renewal
Icus sagt: celiakos Abycus told us a member of the burned face would come to the next akenak assembly
Thols sagt: There's new idea to stuff the army, I don't know much about this
Thols sagt: So... this assembly ?
Icus sagt: Yes, but i don't see him/her
Icus sagt: They are the most aware of the guard and army needs.
Dios Apotheps sagt: Since Celiakos Abycus couldn't be hear, I'm afraid this has to be reported.
Dios Apotheps sagt: And the Member of the Burned Face.
Thols sagt: ney, so it'll be quick.
Thols sagt: But i have a word to say on that.
Thols sagt: Maybe it's a good thing to put the raw material priority on Kitin outposts
Icus sagt: Yes, the proposal was before the kitin outpost construction.
Thols sagt: Oh, didn't know that
Thols sagt: So what do you think about the priority ?
Icus sagt: Kitins outpost, definitively.
Lerya sagt: Agree.
Dios Apotheps sagt: I agree with this. The Kitin presence seems to grow slowly.
Thols sagt: So maybe we could talk about it right now, and we'll talk about the law point in last
Icus sagt: Yes, why not
Thols sagt: celiakos Dios ? You have something to say about it ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: The sharükos wants to express that he is proud of what his people has achieved so far.
Dios Apotheps sagt: But time seems to get short since the kitins are getting more and more active.
Dios Apotheps sagt: But as I see the Akenak realised this already.
Dios Apotheps sagt: So I have nothing more to add at the moment.
Thols sagt: So maybe it would be great to accelerate the help patriots could provide.
Icus sagt: It would be awesome if we could do this
Icus sagt: Maybe the barker can help ? I'm assuming the whole sharük is already digging for it.
Thols sagt: Barkers would be of a great help, maybe we could send them a letter ?
Lerya sagt: We can try.
Dios Apotheps nods.
Thols sagt: akenak please raise your hands if you agree to ask help to the Barkers
Thols raise his hand
Icus raises his hand.
Lerya sagt: Lerya raises her hand.
Thols sagt: Great, who want to do that ?
Icus sagt: I can do it.
Thols sagt: Great
Thols sagt: So, last point
Thols sagt: A law text as been written and is purposed to be proposed to the sharük
Thols sagt: It would write down all laws of behaviour that bounds akenak, akenos and patriots
Thols sagt: Also during the assemblies
Thols sagt: Icus is already working on it an Lerya is starting to be in
Icus nods.
Thols sagt: I propose that it would be all ready and traduced in the three dialects for the next general assembly
Thols sagt: What do you think of it, celiakos ? and patriots ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: I don't know the content, but of course I'm willing to take a look at the text to judge.
Icus liebt Eloan.
Icus liebt Eloan.
Icus liebt Eloan.
Thols sagt: ney, of course, but it's on the principal.
Thols sagt: Would it be possible to admit for the celiak ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: A law often means that someone can be punished if he doesn't follow it?
Thols sagt: ney
Thols sagt: Sanctions would be added with the law too
Dios Apotheps sagt: It may be quite restrictive if someone can be punished for not acting in a certain way. It depens on how strict these behaviors are.
Thols sagt: ney, but law is nothing without sanctions.
Lerya sagt: That´s true. If we don´t make sanctions, we don´t need any law.
Icus agrees with the two akenak.
Dios Apotheps sagt: I really can't judge it without having an example what kind of behavior it is.
Thols sagt: ney, we can understand, but we'll talk about it when it'll be written down definitly
Dios Apotheps nods.
Feylin seems intriged
Lerya sagt: What I mean is that we can have a protocol, big or small, but not all the people is up to behave according to that protocol. So if there isn´t a sanction, those people won´t help to us.
Thols nods
Thols sagt: Maybe patriots or visitors have some questions about it ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: During an assembly, the Akenos has all righs to create a protocol and to take actions to ensure that it is obeyed.
Thols sagt: It would also restrict precisely the rights of an akenos
Thols sagt: So there's no abusive use of power
Thols sagt: I guess it would be better for everyone
Dios Apotheps sagt: In principle I have nothing against it. For the details we will have to see.
Thols nods : He were thinking about it like that
Icus sagt: We'll need the definitive version of it, of course
Thols sagt: I guess if no ones have something to add, we can ear our patriots and visitors for anything they want
Thols sagt: Please raise your hand if you want to say a word
Zhoi raises her hand and stands up at the same time: I have something to say, even though it is not exactly urgent. It might have to do a bit with the ominous TENANT you mentioned. Perhaps...
Thols sagt: ney, you can talk visitor Zhoi
Zhoi sagt: as I have already told to the Rangers at their Assembly: we Zorai have asked and have been granted permission by our Sages to form an international institution that shall phrase a new, unified version of two old treaties
Zhoi sagt: the Sages said that representatives from each city and each neutral group should get together in this institution...
Zhoi sagt: it is not an urgent matter as I said, but you might want to start thinking of who you want to send. If you want to send a representative for this
Zhoi sagt: as you know there are different old versions of the treaty of the four nations and the free trade agreement... so this institution shall find a new phrasing together...
Thols sagt: Do anyone official from the TENANT thing asked for official relation of the sharük ?
Zhoi sagt: I am not sure what commission YOU were talking about and what kind of "agreeement" by the Theocracy, as no Fyros has proposed anything like a commission to us at our Assemblies...
Icus sagt: I'm pretty sure patriot Geyos asked to represdent the sharük in this commision.
Zhoi sagt: I am asking YOU today to please ask your Sharük for permission to take part at this institution
Thols sagt: So it's an official ask from TENANT ?
Zhoi sagt: and please send someone who is interested in finding a solution together with everyone, not someone who just wants to quarrel....
Zhoi sagt: uhm, sorry... are you asking me? *looks at Thols* about TENANT?
Thols sagt: Please don't judge our assembly before it haven't taken any decision
Thols sagt: ney, you seem to talk in the name of the TENANT, is that ask official ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: I may have to add that the concept "tenant" is not very known in many cities. I'm sure in some dialects, the simple homin is completely lost if they hear this word.
Zhoi sagt: you might have misunderstood my words. I did not judge anyone
Zhoi sagt: look, I already said that I don't know what TENANT even means...
Dios Apotheps sagt: I think this is true for many many homins, even those who are active in politics.
Zhoi sagt: I have been a Zorai-representatives for many years and have never heard about that... Geyos said something like this but then talked about the treaty of the four nations...
Thols sagt: So it's only a piece of advice ?
Zhoi sagt: it is a personal plea
Thols sagt: (Treaty of the four nations is at first raw Lore for every server)
Thols sagt: (Aniro just updated it for itself)
Zhoi sagt: (I know about the treaty of four nations, but no TENANT!)
Thols sagt: ney, akenak, do you think we should send an official emissary to the TENANT commission ?
Icus sagt: Well
Dios Apotheps sagt: (indeed the term TENANT is completely unkown and still ver misterious for players from Leanon and Arispotle. It may contribute to problems forming such a commission.)
Icus sagt: it seems obvious the sharük needs a representative at the tenant commision
Zhoi sagt: our beloved Grand Sage said that this institution shall not be an institution of the past, but a new one
Thols sagt: ney, I guess I has a point on that
Zhoi sagt: it's name has not been decided upon...
Thols sagt: akenak Lerya, what do you think of it ?
Thols sagt: Should we send someone officially ?
Lerya sagt: About having a representative?
Thols sagt: ney, exactly
Zhoi sagt: please choose one representative for each city
Zhoi sagt: if possible
Jarnys sagt: (just call ist "new international treaty commission" and nobody will be too confused by its name)
Lerya sagt: ney, we should. And that was my next question, Only one?
Zhoi sagt: if one city should decide to not send a representative, well... nothing we can do about that
Icus sagt: It's definitively too much
Icus sagt: 1 reprensetative for each city means 3 per nation
Thols sagt: As Zhoi suggest, maybe one akenos for each dialect ?
Zhoi sagt: it is what the honored Sages and our most wise Grand Mask decided
Icus sagt: With 5 nation including ranger it means 15 homins
Icus sagt: akenak Thols can witness, speech were harsh with only 5 homins back in the time
Zhoi sagt: there might also be more neutrals... those who sympathize with the Trytonists and those who don't trust any neutral factions...
Icus sagt: I don't think we can ever get an agreement with at least 15 homins speaking
Thols sagt: ney visitor Zhoi, but here you are under the sharükos rules
Zhoi looks at Icus and shrugs her shoulders
Thols sagt: ney, back in time with only 5 people, negociations have been hard
Zhoi sagt: I don't know of any talks amongst 5 people....
Lerya sagt: I guess no akenos talks the 3 dialects right?
Zhoi sagt: this will be an institution of the present, and if you send reasonable homins, they will surely be able to come to a conclusion together
Thols sagt: Last time (on Aniro), negociations have been made by 5 people, one ranger and from the four nations
Thols sagt: I've been the one from the sharük, and the writing of the treaty have been long
Zhoi sagt: even if one homin should be able to speak all three main dialects of Atys, the Sages explicitely asked for one representative of each city if possible
Thols sagt: ney
Thols sagt: But it is the desert, not the jungle.
Zhoi sagt: it is the present, not the past
Icus sagt: It doesn't mean we can act foolishly
Thols sagt: That's right, but does not make any point
Thols sagt: akenak Lerya, I don't think we have one, ney
Lerya sagt: Akep akenak Thols.
Thols sagt: akenak Lerye, Icus, what do you think ?
Zhoi sagt: well; I've said all that had to be said... our beloved Great Mask Mabreka Cho has spoken wise words just like always. May the representatives be just as wise and know what "voting" means... *sits down again*
Thols sagt: ney, we know what voting means
Thols sagt: akep visitor Zhoi
Zhoi nods, seemingly content
Icus sagt: as i said, if we have 3 representatives per nation, we will never get a finalized treaty approved by everyone
Thols sagt: ney, this is a good point, akenak Lerya ?
Zurchkuchna raises his hand.
Lerya sagt: Every akenak knows what the sharük needs. One should be enough.
Thols say to Zurchkuchna : ney, you'll have your turn just after
Lerya sagt: I don´t have nothing more to add about this by now.
Thols sagt: So akenak that agree to send only one representative, please raise your hand
Thols raise his hand
Icus raises his hand.
Lerya raises her hand.
Zhoi looks at the Celiakos
Thols sagt: So only one would be send in the name of the sharük
Zhoi sagt: (is it allowed to exclude absent players from taking part at roleplay by voting amongst those who band together against them?)
Feylin raise a hand
Thols sagt: (If it wasn't, there'll be no way to cote anything...)
Thols sagt: So, now to Zurchkuchna.
Zurchkuchna sagt: I had a little remark, but now it is decided: if there will be three represantives of each nation, but only one of Fyros - whose voice will be louder? Your cities won't be that quarreling, that three represantives won't be an advantage for your nation?
Thols sagt: If our nation doesn't agree, the sharükos won't sign it.
Thols sagt: It's as simple as that.
Zurchkuchna nods and sits down again
Thols sagt: akep Zurchkuchna
Thols sagt: Now Fey-Lin
Feylin sagt: I'm still confuse about those memorise differences ... but please remember me Thols ....
Feylin sagt: Wasn't there more than 5 peoples involved in the commission, in the past ?
Thols sagt: dey, it was only five people to decide
Thols sagt: Kiwalie for neutral representative
Thols sagt: Kaaon for the Federation
Thols sagt: (God I'm forgetting names...)
Feylin sagt: (Riddick and Kaikyo ? :p)
Icus sagt: (and you for the Empire :p)
Thols sagt: (Not Riddick ! But thanks for Kaikyo !)
Thols sagt: Kaikyo for the Theocraty
Icus sagt: (Reedetch à l'époque non ?)
Thols sagt: And... maybe Reedeek, an old friend for the Royalty
Thols sagt: And I for the sharük
Dios Apotheps sagt: Well I am sure that if a representant from Dyron or Pyr wants to join the negotiations no akenos would stand against this wish.
Thols sagt: It was just after the Fyros/Matis war
Thols sagt: ney, but it won't be official from the shaük
Zhoi shakes her head in disbelief
Feylin sagt: Seems you already assume the representant of the empire will be from Thesos
Thols sagt: We don't know, that's why I don't think it's good to vote our representant right now
Icus sagt: We could ask the candidate to come at next Pyr assembly.
Thols sagt: ney, that patriot is not necesserely an akenak
Thols sagt: He just have to speak in the name of the sharük
Feylin sagt: Well, on another topic, I am curious of the need for punisment to accompany your laws
Thols sagt: Curiosity is a great quality
Feylin sagt: I mean, your laws about behavior for patriots, akenos and akenaks
Lerya sagt: That is what means law or even a rule. If you don´t do something you have a punishment or sanction. If notis only protocol, you can do it or not.
Thols sagt: As an akenak, if there is someone from TENANT here, I'd like to say I'd prefer an official ask for representant than a piece of advice
Zhoi stands up
Zhoi sagt: I am an official ambassador
Zhoi sagt: I have officially told you about the decision of our Sages
Thols sagt: I said from TENANT, not from the Theocraty, please keep focus.
Zhoi sagt: if the words of our Grand Sage are not "good" for you... *sounds very angry* then... then... *snorts and sits down again*
Feylin sagt: Thols, there is no commission yet, so you ask for something that cannot be.
Thols sagt: I appreciate some words from the Ma-Kwaï, but my loyalty is to the sharükos.
Zhoi sagt: it is very possible that there will not be a TENANT ever again...
Zhoi sagt: this new institution will very likely bear a new name
Zhoi sagt: please don't ignore the words of our most honored Mabreka Cho
Thols sagt: If only the name bothers you, I can understand.
Feylin make a sign toward Zhoi
Zhoi sagt: as your representatives will be a part of this new institution, how could someone from this institution come to ask you right now?
Thols sagt: Last time, it was a clear ask to every country, I don't know why it can't be possible right now
Icus sagt: Last time we didn't had to deal with Zhoi
Icus sagt: That's why.
Zhoi shrugs her shoulders: what last time? Forget about older times
Thols sagt: Please all calm down
Thols sagt: My point is
Zhoi sagt: of course the times have changed, and they will go on changing. Some political representatives retire, new ones start to take up political work...
Thols sagt: Neutral could do some work by their own and then invite nations to joins us, right ?
Zhoi sagt: why neutrals?
Zhoi sagt: I have informed the rangers about this plans already...
Thols sagt: Because they are neutrals
Feylin sagt: I'm sorry Thols, but your point is not clear
Zhoi sagt: I will not accept neutrals to be treated as if they were something "better" than those who represent their nations
Zhoi sagt: why would you proud Fyros do that?
Thols sagt: Not something better, something neutral, objective
Thols sagt: Fyros are logical people, that's the right thing to do
Zhoi shakes her head: this institution should be formed by all representatives from all cities and neutral factions as equals
Icus sagt: neutral "faction"
Zhoi sagt: at least this is how I understood the words of our Sages
Icus sagt: We are speaking about rewriting the treaty of the four "nation"
Thols ruft: ALL PLEASE STOP
Zhoi sagt: but also the free trade agreement...
Thols sagt: All this is a debate that doesn't need any assembly approvment
Thols sagt: So the assembly is finished.
Thols sagt: All other discussion can be discussed later.
Thols sagt: akep
Thols sagt: celiakos Dios ?
Fyranth nods
Dios Apotheps nods too.
Thols sagt: Could you end up the assembly ?
Dios Apotheps sagt: We can close the assembly, yes.
Dios Apotheps sagt: Before I leave, just a few additional words to the actual discussion from my personal perspective.
Dios Apotheps sagt: Whatever the nations decide how their representatives for the negotiations of the treaties are determined, or how many there will be,
Dios Apotheps sagt: it will only work if it is also accepted by the homins - at least by the people who feel responsible for their nations.
Dios Apotheps sagt: I can understand the sorrows of homins speaking dialects if they feel "not at home" or even excluded if old terms are used and if a past is taken as a reference that is not theirs.
Dios Apotheps sagt: It is my personal belief that it is necessary to keep that in mind to make these treaties a success.
Dios Apotheps sagt: Akep.
Thols nods
Icus nods.
Dios Apotheps sagt: I'm sorry but I have to leave. Oren Fyraï.
Dios Apotheps verbeugt sich voller Respekt.
Feylin verbeugt sich vor Dios Apotheps.
Ventron verbeugt sich vor Dios Apotheps.
Icus sagt: oren fyraï celiakos.
Lerya sagt: oren fyraï
Fyranth begrüßt Dios Apotheps mit einer vornehmen Verbeugung.
Thols sagt: oren fyraï celiakos
Jarnys asks Zhoi silently: can you send me an izam if there are any news regarding the new treaty? I might miss something important otherwise while on travels...
Zhoi nods to Jarnys: gladly
Jarnys ist Zhoi dankbar.
Lerya winkt Icus zu.
Icus sagt: Honorate awakened zhoi, or whatever you are
Thols sagt: Daaaamn...
Icus sagt: I truly believe you are actually working for the marauder
Icus sagt: I don't see any other rational explanations for you trying to disrupt every single assembly i saw you in.
Zhoi steps back from Icus
}Zhoi sagt: this is exactly the thing I could say about you... "Akenak" *spits out the word*
Icus sagt: So much trouble, with only one homin
Icus sagt: I must say i'm kind of impressed.
Zhoi sagt: pf!
Zhoi turns around without a further word
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